fatchance
2 weeks
It would seem, based on postings here, that the site rules have changed. That is certainly up to the site owner alone to decide. However, based on those conversations, I went to review the rules again so I would be familiar with any changes, and did not see any. The rules on the site as posted still say:

"giving and receiving gifts

It's nice to both give and receive gifts, perhaps as an appreciation for uploaded content or food to help you on your weight gain journey. However no one wants to be pestered with unwanted soliciting or begging for gifts, so to prevent this and distinguish gift giving from commercial use please ensure the following:

There is no exchange of money from one person to another
Wish lists and similar are kept to profiles only
Requests for gifts are kept to private areas only, such as messages or chat
Other members are not annoyed with excessive nagging or begging"

Assuming that this has changed, would you please update it so everyone (including me) is familiar with them?

I do appreciate the hard work that maintaining this site requires. Thanks for all the hard work you put in.
hiccupx
2 weeks
We've relaxed the site rules in that we now allow links to pay sites and wish lists on profiles. Links to pay sites are allowed in the context of 'this is what I do' which may be interesting to people reading their profile. Wish lists are allowed because it's recognised that some feeders like to buy gifts and spoil their feedees. However the site is still for non commercial use only and this hasn't changed. The rules you quote above have recently been updated to reflect this and are not old.
fatchance
2 weeks
So the "no exchange of money" still applies, but sending items, or food is permitted.
And all of that is supposed to be limited to profiles and private messages.

So, a shout message that says "I only want to hear from real feeders who will send me money" followed by many more messages saying "real feeders message me" or "where are the real feeders at" would not be acceptable if I understand correctly?
fatchance
2 weeks
Whereas, getting to know someone to the point of exchanging messages or individual chat and raising the issue of sending food (for example) is perfectly fine. right?
hiccupx
2 weeks
Indeed although some shouts can slip through. please bear in mind the moderators are all volunteers and I can assure you they work tirelessly to try and keep this website a safe space for everyone. We welcome and encourage help for all users so if you see any dubious messages or have doubts about people please use the report (flag) features to highlight them up.
fatchance
2 weeks
Thanks I appreciate you clarifying that for me. You and the moderators do a great job and the effort is appreciated.

There does seem to be a misunderstanding among some folks about how far the rules were relaxed. Some believe that it now allows asking for money in general, and on the shout page in particular. Hopefully I am not the only one who now understands the rule better.
fatchance
2 weeks
feedback and suggestions forum
private messaging changes - faq
fatchance
2 weeks
I find it interesting that someone would send me a personal message, and block me before I have the opportunity to read it. Obviously a conversation was not desired. Kinda the online equivalent of calling someone on the phone, calling them names, and hanging up.

Not asking for, or expecting any action. Just seems childish.
fatchance
2 weeks
Everyone can certainly do as they please. I get the "feeding" thing VERY well.

I am finding it to be a thin line from panhandling when feedee asks, not for food but for cash. And she does not want the money sent via paypal, but via "other services" that primarily act as cut outs. You would think it was Russian hackers getting paid to give you your data back.

So is the money for feeding, or is it just online begging?

In any case, perhaps the site rules HAVE changed and my issues are mine alone. I will say it is pretty disturbing to log on and see 3, 4, 5, shouts over the course of the day from the same woman, word for word they say, asking "where are the online feeders", or whatever the line is for that day. When you get a few women doing this, it begins to look like a large percentage of the shouts are begging for money.

Hopefully, this has gotten this out of my system, I will try not to bring this up again. If it keeps on heading toward being mostly an online begging site, I will just move on.
conflicted
2 weeks
You're right with what you said before. I get the feeling that these are con jobs and ive even heard from guys who were duped that it was a scam. That being said, I will never send money to someone I don't know not knowing what its really being used for. Its dishonest ans dirty. And i get questioned for doubting peoples motives knowing there are scams going on all the time. Show me a person on here who thinks this is all "legit" and I'll Show you a person who's been living in a bubble all their lives.....smfh
fivehundred
2 weeks
I mean, its probably because paypal bans sex workers that they can't use paypal. I'm permanently banned from paypal for accepting work money on there.
lazylacey
2 weeks
I have to imagine some of it is about protecting personal information. I'm sure there really are people who mislead others, because this IS the internet, but on the other hand, there are probably a lot of people doing their best to stay safe.
While I would love to have someone send me a pizza (or two), record myself eating, and send the video back to them...I can't think of a good way to make that happen without giving out my address out to strangers on the internet. I mean, to be perfectly honest, I'd be all in anyway because it's PIZZA, but I also know that it's not a great life choice. It's not one I'd encourage others to make.
...dammit, now I'm hungry. :/ that's the problem with hypothetical pizza.
ObviousLurker
2 weeks
I mean, if people want money and won't talk to you unless you give it to them. Don't talk to them?
StarSmoke
2 weeks
On the whole Paypal thing. Trolls figured out years ago that they can send money through Paypal and then cancel it afterward, even months afterward. Then Paypal changed their terms. Now doing that strikes the other person with a $20 chargeback fee. So if you sent someone $5 and they spent that on food, you could turn around and cost them $25 in the end. I used to make sure anyone who used this sent it with a note saying ďthis is a gift, I expect nothing in returnĒ and that does work, expect it opens up a 6+ month investigation where Paypal has to get confirmation from your bank back and forth before youíd ultimately win the case, but that doesnít erase the $20 chargeback fee. There are a lot of bad people who do this for fun just to torment feedees. Also, Paypal uses your real name. Iíve had people get my phone number and home address from Paypal. Iíve had people show up at my door and leave packages for me. Thatís super creepy and horrible. Paypal absolutely sucks nowadays, and I always warn people not to ever use it for personal stuff. Thatís where egift cards are way better. Safe, instant, and trolls canít do much tobhurt you with them. As a feedee Iíve been scammed more times than I could even count. How many times hav I scammed someone? Never. But I know it happens, and all anyone can really say is tough. I know this isnít a post about me but maybe you didnít know that stuff about Paypal or how many dishonest feeders lurk about, especially on this site.
fatchance
2 weeks
Star, you are correct in that I did not know about the paypal issues you described.
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