Borat wrote
I don't find them distasteful, no different to posing with a car or an animal or something. I did however come into this topic expecting something Anchorman related. I feel disappointed

Stefanydiwilmette wrote
Everyone under the dominion of a feudal monarchy who dosen't like guns, raise their hands. Everyone who lives free of feudalism who likes guns raise theirs. ME!

Stefanydiwilmette wrote
Everyone under the dominion of a feudal monarchy who dosen't like guns, raise their hands. Everyone who lives free of feudalism who likes guns raise theirs. ME!

I'm an artist, a progressive, and I love to shoot target. Recreational shooting in rural Ameica is completely social, like bowling. Visitors to the US ask about me guns and I always invite them to the range and teach them to shoot safely. All of them have told me afterwards that it was the coolest thing they've ever done!

In the US, firearms are all about free expression. The first shots in the American Revolution were fired because the British were trying to seize the arsenal at Lexington, Mass. The American Colonies were the dumping ground for all of England's crazy Protestants. I'm descended from them. In America we know that without guns, the Pope's feudal mercenaries would have crushed Martin Luther's protestants. Freedom of religious expression was followed by freedom of press and freedom of speech. As Oliver Cromwell said, "Put your faith in God, but keep your powder dry."

shandyman wrote
I have noticed a few people on here over the years have shown pictures of them with guns which I do find very disturbing. I really do no understand why someone would want to own a gun (hand gun in particular) unless you rely on it for food or need it to keep vermin down. I can see how it is a macho thing, although I find that rather pathetic.

I just think it is in pretty bad taste to show these weapons, which more often than not have been designed to kill people.

Theik wrote


So... not liking guns is equal to living in a feudal monarchy? You gun-nuts are getting odder by the second.

joswitch wrote


I disagree. And I live in the UK. I'd much prefer if we had more sensible firearms laws allowing people to use their own guns to protect themselves from attack in their own homes - along the lines of the laws in France.

A number of folks are mocking Stephany, but he's right that if you live in the UK, you are a SUBJECT of the Crown, and if you look at the history of civil disarmament - over the last say, 120 years - in the UK it's all been connected to (well founded) fears by the rulers of revolution by the ruled.

When all firearms are illegal only criminals and coppers have guns.
For everyone who thinks this is a great thing, have a think on the people mistakenly shot by coppers here in the UK, and how not ONE copper has EVER been successfully prosecuted for this. Harry Stanley. Jean Charles de Menezes. Just for starters.


Also take a look at the history of oppression worldwide - disarmed populations always suffer.

In Japan, the Shogunate era, there had been a burgeoning movement of social mobility among the peasant classes - connected with the ownership of guns... this threatened the rulers and the monopoly on force held by the samurai... so guns were impounded nationally and an embargo enforced... this cemented the power of the samurai again, to the point that the right of a samurai to "kill and go" should he judge ANY peasant to have insulted him in ANYway, was enshrined by law...

In Germany the pre-nazi government disarmed all civillians... That armed Jewish civilians would NOT have suffered the Holocaust* is proven by the resistance of the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto, in Poland, ... They had a few handguns and some dynamite and successfully held out against an SS battalion (who had come to take them to the concentration camps) for some time, and some even escaped with their lives to join the rest of the Polish resistance. There's a whole bunch of Jewish folks in the USA who are very, very keen supporters of the Right to Bear Arms...

I could go on, (and on) but I won't. Suffice to say that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. And that the majority in the UK have been so brainwashed into believing that "all guns = superpowerful and evil all the time!" (to the point that some moron can hold up a bank with a banana in a sock... to the point that our Olympic pistol shooting team must train in Switzerland...) tells me that if and when things do go bad in this country, then they will go bad very, very fast and will be met with almost zero opposition.

(*all 20th century genocides show this pattern, by the way. Disarmament first, then genocide. Unsurprisingly, ARMED people fight back when you try to slaughter them. That makes it so very much harder to do! ... 56 million people were slaughtered in genocidal events (as opposed to combatants killed in battles or civilians bombed in wars) in the 20th century... Armenians, Jews, Gypsies, Kulaks (Stalin), Gay folks, Black people, "Intellectuals" (Pol Pot) etc. etc. 56 million by the way, was the same number of people as the ENTIRE population of the UK about twenty years ago... Try to imagine that death toll.... it's 12 million more than the total number killed in the entire Second World War...

If you require more recent examples - Kosovo and Rwanda (if you haven't watched "Hotel Rwanda" you should... be ready to cry, big time... then imagine swapping the geography to England and the Hutu militia for freshly ascendant British Neo-Fascist thugs... now how safe would you feel being unarmed??) and of course Darfur... where genocide is underway RIGHT NOW.)

It's a gloomy topic I admit. I also thought it was going to be about Anchorman. Oh well.

Zapp Brannigan wrote
"You know your a red neck when your gun rack has a gun rack on it"

ClewistonCatfish wrote



Guilty!