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I feel so small right now…

Well everyone it seems that my own confidence has taken a bit of a hit.

I have recently watched the “Fit vs. Fat” women edition of Middle Ground by Jubilee on YouTube.

youtu.be/u4gEBRSKi2E

While I did though that it was a pretty decent conversation and it was something that I mostly agreed with what was being discussed, not to mention it gave me that sense of delight how both sides agreed on certain topics. But the comment section though… quite the opposite.

Now this isn’t the first time nor the last that I have seen this before, especially in a Jubilee video when they talk about fat people. But this time it really ended up ruining the whole mood for me with people commenting about how “blind” and “delusional” the people on the panel were, plus the good old “obese is unhealthy” comment that everyone familiar with by now. And of course there was people saying that too many people were making up “excuses” especially for saying how they used to think like so when they were fat. Oh, and I think a lot of people know that the hardest critic of fat people are those who used to be so… or most of the time.

Now yes there were some positive comments (or at least ones with a bit of nuance) of that video. But let me tell you at least 89% of them had a bit of a negative tone to them.

Even I tried to put in a well thought comment on it. Here’s actually what I said:



“Now I’ve said something similar to the one where they had with men… but one thing that I’ve learned from watching this (and that) video and from personal experiences, no body is ever alike nor perfect. Sure health stuff does matter, but it should only be taken for personal reasonings not for anyone else outside of the matter.

I know many people have questioned body positivity in recent times, but there’s one thing that I’ve always stayed loyal to. Is that body positivity is choosing positivity and to learn to be grateful of your own skin and flaws. And whether or not if I wanted to change… I’m still thankful that my features are what make me, myself! ❤️ Now I do acknowledge that there’s nothing wrong with losing weight, but it’s ALSO nothing wrong with being okay with yourself without changing yourself physically. After all self acceptance is just as important as self improvement! There’s a fine line between losing weight for looking after your wellbeing versus keeping up with social beauty standards.”



As of right now it currently has about 25 likes (last time I checked). But compared with all the other comments that I have seen that had hundreds and thousands of likes, especially from the formerly fat people who have commented… I was like “How do you compete with that!” and I just completely exhausted myself mentally from seeing all of that.

Now I’m not trying to get myself feel validated, not at all. It’s more about getting my message out there hopefully to find some nuance or something like that. I do acknowledge that not every comment in that video is considered a hate comment when they are really being more critically truthful.

Either way it made me feel small and not really good about myself. Maybe it’s because I care too much, maybe it’s because of me liking bigger women I worry that one day I’ll face a reality that they won’t exist anymore or be banished from society. Or perhaps it’s a reminder that people like me belong under a rock.

Now I apologize if this was a long post. But I do have a lot to say about it. 😅 I know that it also sounds a little downbeat but I think it’s because well it is a pretty deep topic. I bet the comments of this thread is gonna be interesting! I will always like bigger women and I will try to bring some of that kind of nuance to be an ally to plus size women. But in today’s social climate, it’s getting difficult!

Anyways thanks for coming to my TED talk.
1 month

I feel so small right now…

JN_TumLover56:
Well everyone it seems that my own confidence has taken a bit of a hit.

I have recently watched the “Fit vs. Fat” women edition of Middle Ground by Jubilee on YouTube.

youtu.be/u4gEBRSKi2E

While I did though that it was a pretty decent conversation and it was something that I mostly agreed with what was being discussed, not to mention it gave me that sense of delight how both sides agreed on certain topics. But the comment section though… quite the opposite.

Now this isn’t the first time nor the last that I have seen this before, especially in a Jubilee video when they talk about fat people. But this time it really ended up ruining the whole mood for me with people commenting about how “blind” and “delusional” the people on the panel were, plus the good old “obese is unhealthy” comment that everyone familiar with by now. And of course there was people saying that too many people were making up “excuses” especially for saying how they used to think like so when they were fat. Oh, and I think a lot of people know that the hardest critic of fat people are those who used to be so… or most of the time.

Now yes there were some positive comments (or at least ones with a bit of nuance) of that video. But let me tell you at least 89% of them had a bit of a negative tone to them.

Even I tried to put in a well thought comment on it. Here’s actually what I said:



“Now I’ve said something similar to the one where they had with men… but one thing that I’ve learned from watching this (and that) video and from personal experiences, no body is ever alike nor perfect. Sure health stuff does matter, but it should only be taken for personal reasonings not for anyone else outside of the matter.

I know many people have questioned body positivity in recent times, but there’s one thing that I’ve always stayed loyal to. Is that body positivity is choosing positivity and to learn to be grateful of your own skin and flaws. And whether or not if I wanted to change… I’m still thankful that my features are what make me, myself! ❤️ Now I do acknowledge that there’s nothing wrong with losing weight, but it’s ALSO nothing wrong with being okay with yourself without changing yourself physically. After all self acceptance is just as important as self improvement! There’s a fine line between losing weight for looking after your wellbeing versus keeping up with social beauty standards.”



As of right now it currently has about 25 likes (last time I checked). But compared with all the other comments that I have seen that had hundreds and thousands of likes, especially from the formerly fat people who have commented… I was like “How do you compete with that!” and I just completely exhausted myself mentally from seeing all of that.

Now I’m not trying to get myself feel validated, not at all. It’s more about getting my message out there hopefully to find some nuance or something like that. I do acknowledge that not every comment in that video is considered a hate comment when they are really being more critically truthful.

Either way it made me feel small and not really good about myself. Maybe it’s because I care too much, maybe it’s because of me liking bigger women I worry that one day I’ll face a reality that they won’t exist anymore or be banished from society. Or perhaps it’s a reminder that people like me belong under a rock.

Now I apologize if this was a long post. But I do have a lot to say about it. 😅 I know that it also sounds a little downbeat but I think it’s because well it is a pretty deep topic. I bet the comments of this thread is gonna be interesting! I will always like bigger women and I will try to bring some of that kind of nuance to be an ally to plus size women. But in today’s social climate, it’s getting difficult!

Anyways thanks for coming to my TED talk.
1 month

I feel so small right now…

Your first mistake was watching Jubilee. That is not the place to go when it comes to thoughtful, respectful discussions with differences of opinion. This is where certain tribes of thought gather to duke it out.

There's a reason why there are so many Youtube videos and channels dedicated to clowning on Jubilee. You might find some thoughtful conversation, but it's rare.

It's best to educate yourself, form your own opinions based on what you've learned, and then keep it trucking. Not everyone's opinion is worth the two cents they give you to listen.
1 month

I feel so small right now…

I don’t pay fit people any mind because they’ll be sad and miserable like a hamster on its wheel but I’m gonna solo a large pizza and a sub and be fat and happy. They shit on us fat people because it makes them feel better, and if I need to be that punching bag so be it.

Thanks for supporting fat people regardless.
1 month

I feel so small right now…

Munchies:
Your first mistake was watching Jubilee. That is not the place to go when it comes to thoughtful, respectful discussions with differences of opinion. This is where certain tribes of thought gather to duke it out.

There's a reason why there are so many Youtube videos and channels dedicated to clowning on Jubilee. You might find some thoughtful conversation, but it's rare.

It's best to educate yourself, form your own opinions based on what you've learned, and then keep it trucking. Not everyone's opinion is worth the two cents they give you to listen.


I appreciate the response. And yes it’s very true about how Jubilee is notoriously known for creating an unnecessary political sh*t shows. But for this I did had to prepare myself before watching and came to it with an open mind. I am aware that there are some channels around that react towards a Jubilee video, but I always think that those would normally yam about plus size people or anything cringe. 😅

But hey either way I am learning and continue to learn as I go on. Hey, even being in the forums here has gotten me a little bit of insight! Nowadays I do try and go on to expressing my opinion for what I think is the truth with that bit of nuance. While I am aware that society has that particular pressure and maybe even unfairness… sometimes we do just gotta keep on racing.
1 month

I feel so small right now…

Yo! I remember that video as well. I think I made a comment on there that got like 3K likes on it! It was crazy, I don’t remember the last time I had a comment of mine got that many attention before!

I mentioned how the conversation was way more peaceful than what they did with the men one. Too bad that the one with women didn’t sit so well with the comments section this time.
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