Gaining

Heavy cream is very sneaky

aurasphere:
So I have tried not-heavy soy whipping cream (Alli could find without making an extra trip from one grocery store to walmart), and had an... Interesting experience.

As has been stated, MAN whipping cream is sweet!... and hard to chug without gagging a little! This actually gave me the idea to use it as substitute for the soy milk in my smoothies. And at 30cal per serving and 63 servings per ~1000ml bottle (which so happens to be the same amount of soy milk I use in each smoothie), it made for an approximately 4800cal smoothie! The only thing is... I could only drink half of it. Not that it was too sweet or thick for me to drink, I'm pretty comfortable with that stuff. What happened was my toes and other parts of my body started to feel a little tense and mysteriously painful (I could not easily replicate any discomfort I felt after I felt it).

Thankfully that only lasted the rest of the day, but I half expected to experience extra heat in the core of my belly. I remember when I first started gaining that's what I felt, which at the time I thought was my body activating fat storage for practically the first time ever (I had almost no fat before, so I was very green to what gaining felt like). With how heavy cream is described to help burn belly fat, I thought I'd feel that again, but I didn't. So I'm likely wrong about my assumptions or my cashew-rich smoothies already managed my visceral fat. I am mostly subcutaneous fat right now anyways.

I still have the other half of that smoothie I made with the bottle of whipping cream. I'm slowly going through it, adding it to my regular smoothies. It's a pretty nice flavor to add! I might use heavier cream (in moderation) to bring out the flavor in the future.

becomingoverweight:
That wasn't heavy cream. Heavy cream isn't even remotely sweet. Heavy cream has 3470.16 calories per liter and what you described has 1890 calories per liter. Whatever you drank seems to have gotten most of its calories from sugar. When you consumed it, your blood sugar levels probably spiked really high. High blood sugar messes with nerves and can cause painful tingly sensations. If you read up on diabetic neuropathy, you'd probably find it describes the sensation you had. Obviously you don't have that though since you experienced that due to eating loads of sugar, not from having diabetes. What was the brand/product you used.


You are correct, I did not have heavy whipping cream, as I had initially stated. I was confident there would be a difference between whipping cream and *heavy,* but I wasn't sure how much. Definitely worth experimenting with it until I can find some dairy free heavy cream. All I could find was the SO Delicious beans of not-heavy whipping cream. And yes, while it has quite a bit of saturated and unsaturated fats, it's primarily sugar. Definitely curious what the experiential differences are between the two. Though, still, I'll probably do things half as heavily (or less) when I find heavy cream in stock.
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Heavy cream is very sneaky

becomingoverweight:
Heavy cream and whipping cream are the same thing. That said, neither are supposed to be sweet. Even a dairy-free version of them shouldn't be sweet. Did you get coffee creamer instead?[/quote]

I already threw out the carton, but you're probably right. I grabbed what I thought was the last dairy free carton as it was next to heavy whipping cream made with dairy, which made it look like it was marketed as a "light, low-fat" alternative instead of creamer. It must have been moved from the creamers a couple shelves up... Drat.
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Heavy cream is very sneaky

becomingoverweight:
Heavy cream and whipping cream are the same thing. That said, neither are supposed to be sweet. Even a dairy-free version of them shouldn't be sweet. Did you get coffee creamer instead?

aurasphere:
I already threw out the carton, but you're probably right. I grabbed what I thought was the last dairy free carton as it was next to heavy whipping cream made with dairy, which made it look like it was marketed as a "light, low-fat" alternative instead of creamer. It must have been moved from the creamers a couple shelves up... Drat.

Keebler1987:
Yikes!

I hope the pain reaction went away and you feel better at this time.

Have you attempted to treat your Cow Milk Allergy with probiotics, such as lactobacilli?

Have you tried "Raw Milk"? I had lots of trouble with dairy products until I started supplementing with it. It's not legal in some places, but it is Rich in probiotics that may alleviate some of your symptoms... Assuming that you won't go into anaphylactic shock from a small amount of milk.

Here is a study that attempts to treat CMA with probiotics that are found in raw, unpasteurized cows milk.

]www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3261804/[/quote]

Thankfully, yes. I had to do some unplanned yard work yesterday, so I may have been able to accelerate recovery by working off some of those sugar calories (phew)!

I'll take a look at that article. Thanks for sharing it! I never thought of those possibilities. Though finding a Walmart that has dairy free heavy cream miiight be easier than obtaining "raw milk," if it's as... Legally iffy as you suggest smiley I just gotta make sure I don't accidentally grab creamer again!
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Heavy cream is very sneaky

Heavy cream is by far the best way to gain quickly. Such a huge number of calories in relatively little bulk. I recommend combining it with Nutella in a shake.

Microwave a jar of Nutella (500g) so that it is runny and add this to 600ml heavy cream in a blender. Add full cream milk to the mix so that it is not too thick or sweet. I usually add 1.5 litres.

Drink this over the course of a day along with normal meals. I found that while you do feel a little bloated and occasionally a little queasy, you can gain 2-2.5kgs in a week (4-5.5lbs)
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Heavy cream is very sneaky


becomingoverweight:
Heavy cream and whipping cream are the same thing. That said, neither are supposed to be sweet. Even a dairy-free version of them shouldn't be sweet. Did you get coffee creamer instead?

aurasphere:
I already threw out the carton, but you're probably right. I grabbed what I thought was the last dairy free carton as it was next to heavy whipping cream made with dairy, which made it look like it was marketed as a "light, low-fat" alternative instead of creamer. It must have been moved from the creamers a couple shelves up... Drat.

Keebler1987:
Yikes!

I hope the pain reaction went away and you feel better at this time.

Have you attempted to treat your Cow Milk Allergy with probiotics, such as lactobacilli?

Have you tried "Raw Milk"? I had lots of trouble with dairy products until I started supplementing with it. It's not legal in some places, but it is Rich in probiotics that may alleviate some of your symptoms... Assuming that you won't go into anaphylactic shock from a small amount of milk.

Here is a study that attempts to treat CMA with probiotics that are found in raw, unpasteurized cows milk.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3261804/

aurasphere:
Thankfully, yes. I had to do some unplanned yard work yesterday, so I may have been able to accelerate recovery by working off some of those sugar calories (phew)!

I'll take a look at that article. Thanks for sharing it! I never thought of those possibilities. Though finding a Walmart that has dairy free heavy cream miiight be easier than obtaining "raw milk," if it's as... Legally iffy as you suggest smiley I just gotta make sure I don't accidentally grab creamer again!

Keebler1987:
Walmart would not have "raw milk".

It would be best to look at small grocers, "natural" or "organic" stores, or direct from your local dairy Farmer.

I have had success with it. It's much different in flavor than your standard milk, richer and creamier. I have intolerance to both gluten and dairy, and since consuming raw milk both conditions have improved substantially.

But I am no doctor. Do your research and do what's best for you.

Just keep in mind that "non-dairy" is usually soy based, chemical garbage, that costs more and usually contain milk derivatives such as casein, anyway.

Be safe. Be careful. live your best life.


If I get the chance to try raw milk, I will. It'll be an experiment of sorts since I'm not intolerant, just allergic, which could make a difference or not. But hey, if I'm willing to try heavy cream (and mistakenly pick up the wrong carton), then I think I may safely try raw milk someday smiley
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Heavy cream is very sneaky

I love that the dalgona coffee trend makes this easier to pass off. Buy a large instant coffee or drink mix and it doesn't look like a weird amount of cream, you're just stocking up for the week.
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Heavy cream is very sneaky

boundandfeed:
Could this "sneakyness" be the result of how the body processes the cream? Could this account for the delay and where on the body the fat is deposited?


'heavy' or double cream is just thicker than single cream, no more calories. The thinner stuff is more like milk so could be easier to drink.
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Heavy cream is very sneaky

JackSteven:
'heavy' or double cream is just thicker than single cream, no more calories. The thinner stuff is more like milk so could be easier to drink.

Sorry Jack but I can't let this go unchallenged. Double cream has about 48% fat whereas heavy cream has about 36% and single cream around 18%. There is a correspondingly huge difference in calories too. You are of course correct in that in general the runnier it is the easier it is to drink. I have found a big difference between brands in Double Cream in the UK. For example the Jersey stuff I get from Spar tends to be thick whereas the double cream from Sainsburys or Tesco tends to be quite runny. Same fat content though at 48-50%.
5 years

Heavy cream is very sneaky

JackSteven:
'heavy' or double cream is just thicker than single cream, no more calories. The thinner stuff is more like milk so could be easier to drink.

Curveman:
Sorry Jack but I can't let this go unchallenged. Double cream has about 48% fat whereas heavy cream has about 36% and single cream around 18%. There is a correspondingly huge difference in calories too. You are of course correct in that in general the runnier it is the easier it is to drink. I have found a big difference between brands in Double Cream in the UK. For example the Jersey stuff I get from Spar tends to be thick whereas the double cream from Sainsburys or Tesco tends to be quite runny. Same fat content though at 48-50%.


Going off the label on Tesco's Double and Single cream they are the same calories. Maybe the label is wrong or maybe we're not talking about the same thing.
5 years

Heavy cream is very sneaky

JackSteven:
'heavy' or double cream is just thicker than single cream, no more calories. The thinner stuff is more like milk so could be easier to drink.

Curveman:
Sorry Jack but I can't let this go unchallenged. Double cream has about 48% fat whereas heavy cream has about 36% and single cream around 18%. There is a correspondingly huge difference in calories too. You are of course correct in that in general the runnier it is the easier it is to drink. I have found a big difference between brands in Double Cream in the UK. For example the Jersey stuff I get from Spar tends to be thick whereas the double cream from Sainsburys or Tesco tends to be quite runny. Same fat content though at 48-50%.

JackSteven:
Going off the label on Tesco's Double and Single cream they are the same calories. Maybe the label is wrong or maybe we're not talking about the same thing.


Are you sure you didn't miss also looking at serving size?

In the U.S., for heavy cream the label typically says 50 calories a serving. But a "serving" is only 1 tablespoon, or half a fluid ounce. Whereas for half & half, it says 40 calories per serving, which while that's not much below 50, is for 2 tablespoons, or 1 fluid ounce. So to really compare apples to apples, you have to convert serving sizes, proportionally.

Thus, 100 calories per fluid ounce of heavy cream (36%) vs. half & half which is 40 per fluid ounce (10.5%).

I kind of wish we had double cream that was runny, as it would be easier to either drink or mix into shakes.

The U.S. does have something called "manufacturing cream" which is 40%, and 60 calories per tablespoon, or 120 calories per fluid ounce. But almost no one sells it. Wish I knew where to get some.
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