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For women, femme, and non-binary/gnc friends: what would a safe fa space look like to you?

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LoraDayton   United States
Joined 17 years
The irony of how their username also embodies exactly what we're talking about: person not interested in connecting with us as people, just seeing us as blubber. On point.
2 years

For women, femme, and non-binary/gnc friends: what would a safe fa space look like to you?

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Munchies   United States
Joined 3 years
AnonLovesBlubber:
Lol this toxic thread needs to be deleted. This is an awful mentality, saying all men are creeps and blah blah muh safe space


Hun, Fantasy Feeder is a safe space for feedists. You are actively particpating in a safe space. Imagine what would happen if a bunch of health nuts or some fat phobic people came in like a wrecking ball?

Chaos

And only *one* user said "no men". It was two posts, and more than one person said it was a bad idea - myself included.
2 years

For women, femme, and non-binary/gnc friends: what would a safe fa space look like to you?

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Quiver   United States
Joined 4 years
LoraDayton:
Many of us know how wild it can get out there and how frustrating it can be in these spaces.

I'm working on a couple of fun projects and worldbuilding things and it got me thinking. I know what I personally would like to see if things were ~ideal~ in this FA world but wanted to hear what others thought also!

Keep in mind this is NOT to disparage orcriticze any current network (especially this one!) or to request features. I'm not a mod I don't have that power lol! This is about the FA/feedist community as a whole.

Literally just to think out loud!

Munchies:
I do not ask for much, tbh. I just want an inbox free of creeps, not to have to fight people on basic human rights, to be respected as a person first, and to have the ability to easily block and report people who are terrible.


Just popping in to bump this concept. It’s so basic and yet seemingly so difficult to attain. If I want to block someone for being misogynistic, transphobic etc, i want to see them actually, fully blocked. We have the technology!
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For women, femme, and non-binary/gnc friends: what would a safe fa space look like to you?

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LoraDayton   United States
Joined 17 years
Refeed:
Round and round we go, where we stop, nobody knows


That's the point actually. To keep discussion moving. To be open to learning new things and understanding where peoples' input comes from. I'm glad you observe the same!
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For women, femme, and non-binary/gnc friends: what would a safe fa space look like to you?

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Morbidly A Beast   United States
Joined 2 years
It seems to me like no matter where women go men will follow, and men will make women uncomfortable. So unless you had strict moderation or even some sort of mandatory verification/ or even no messaging at all would resolve it… seems to me like it’s a 1 on 1 and less of a public domain issue because people will support the person being harassed
2 years

For women, femme, and non-binary/gnc friends: what would a safe fa space look like to you?

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HanselsWitch   United States
Joined 7 years
So if it's a question of eliminating men (and women who don't share your ideology), that sounds like more of a smaller group message board. Maybe within a larger kink site. I mean... look at the history of kink. The only reason it's been half-way normalized is because of men's desire for access. Unless it's a site strictly for the female-attracted, keeping men (the lifeblood to kink sites) out is a surefire way for it to fail.
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For women, femme, and non-binary/gnc friends: what would a safe fa space look like to you?

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Munchies   United States
Joined 3 years
HanselsWitch:
So if it's a question of eliminating men (and women who don't share your ideology), that sounds like more of a smaller group message board. Maybe within a larger kink site. I mean... look at the history of kink. The only reason it's been half-way normalized is because of men's desire for access. Unless it's a site strictly for the female-attracted, keeping men (the lifeblood to kink sites) out is a surefire way for it to fail.


Only one user was pro-no men. And everyone clowned on them.

And the thread was all about safe spaces. Across the board the only request was to be treated with respect. So unless you are rascist, xenophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, etc. none of this applies to you.

Also I don't think anyone is looking for things to be normalized in a safe-space. It's nice if it is, but it's not a priority.
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For women, femme, and non-binary/gnc friends: what would a safe fa space look like to you?

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HanselsWitch   United States
Joined 7 years
HanselsWitch:
So if it's a question of eliminating men (and women who don't share your ideology), that sounds like more of a smaller group message board. Maybe within a larger kink site. I mean... look at the history of kink. The only reason it's been half-way normalized is because of men's desire for access. Unless it's a site strictly for the female-attracted, keeping men (the lifeblood to kink sites) out is a surefire way for it to fail.

Munchies:
Only one user was pro-no men. And everyone clowned on them.

And the thread was all about safe spaces. Across the board the only request was to be treated with respect. So unless you are rascist, xenophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, etc. none of this applies to you.

Also I don't think anyone is looking for things to be normalized in a safe-space. It's nice if it is, but it's not a priority.


What I meant by "normalized" was that forums like FF exist at all. Without men, those spaces die. I doubt most men would last in a space where they'll be ousted at the slightest whiff of "problematic" behavior.

I suppose people could dream all day about a place where their ideas are never challenged and nobody says anything that offends them, but it simply will never exist in the real world.
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For women, femme, and non-binary/gnc friends: what would a safe fa space look like to you?

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Munchies   United States
Joined 3 years
HanselsWitch:
So if it's a question of eliminating men (and women who don't share your ideology), that sounds like more of a smaller group message board. Maybe within a larger kink site. I mean... look at the history of kink. The only reason it's been half-way normalized is because of men's desire for access. Unless it's a site strictly for the female-attracted, keeping men (the lifeblood to kink sites) out is a surefire way for it to fail.

Munchies:
Only one user was pro-no men. And everyone clowned on them.

And the thread was all about safe spaces. Across the board the only request was to be treated with respect. So unless you are rascist, xenophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, etc. none of this applies to you.

Also I don't think anyone is looking for things to be normalized in a safe-space. It's nice if it is, but it's not a priority.

HanselsWitch:
What I meant by "normalized" was that forums like FF exist at all. Without men, those spaces die. I doubt most men would last in a space where they'll be ousted at the slightest whiff of "problematic" behavior.

I suppose people could dream all day about a place where their ideas are never challenged and nobody says anything that offends them, but it simply will never exist in the real world.


You should give men more credit. Most men are decent people. Most men are not going to sexually harrass people or be openly bigotted. It is the percentage of men that *WILL* do that is why there's a problem.

It becomes an even bigger problem when there is a culture of bigotry. So, that's what people are talking about. It's a little sad that you have such a low view of people in general - especially men.
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For women, femme, and non-binary/gnc friends: what would a safe fa space look like to you?

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HanselsWitch   United States
Joined 7 years
HanselsWitch:
So if it's a question of eliminating men (and women who don't share your ideology), that sounds like more of a smaller group message board. Maybe within a larger kink site. I mean... look at the history of kink. The only reason it's been half-way normalized is because of men's desire for access. Unless it's a site strictly for the female-attracted, keeping men (the lifeblood to kink sites) out is a surefire way for it to fail.

Munchies:
Only one user was pro-no men. And everyone clowned on them.

And the thread was all about safe spaces. Across the board the only request was to be treated with respect. So unless you are rascist, xenophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, etc. none of this applies to you.

Also I don't think anyone is looking for things to be normalized in a safe-space. It's nice if it is, but it's not a priority.

HanselsWitch:
What I meant by "normalized" was that forums like FF exist at all. Without men, those spaces die. I doubt most men would last in a space where they'll be ousted at the slightest whiff of "problematic" behavior.

I suppose people could dream all day about a place where their ideas are never challenged and nobody says anything that offends them, but it simply will never exist in the real world.

Munchies:
You should give men more credit. Most men are decent people. Most men are not going to sexually harrass people or be openly bigotted. It is the percentage of men that *WILL* do that is why there's a problem.

It becomes an even bigger problem when there is a culture of bigotry. So, that's what people are talking about. It's a little sad that you have such a low view of people in general - especially men.


Do we know each other? What exactly tells you I have a low view of men? I was simply stating that most men wouldn't want to deal with environment where they're walking on eggshells... which is more often than not the culture of "safe spaces." Not because most men are bad, but because they don't want anything they say blown out of proportion or becoming a pile-on in the comments. Most women wouldn't want that either, but they're usually judged less harshly.
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