My point was that you treat women like objects, not actual people
I have no idea where you acquired this opinion. Is this about my simile about fine china and paper plates? Allow me then to explain: Fine china represents something that is valuable and treated with care, making sure that your actions don't damage it because it is irreplaceable. Paper plates are something you use once and throw away, without the need or desire to care what that does to the plate. The meaning of the simile was the exact opposite of what you claim. It means that each woman is an irreplaceable individual that should be treated with care, not as an object to be disposed of whenever it is convenient.
and you need to put in to these communities what you want out of them. If you want to commune with people you have to contribute to it.
Fair point, but if by "contribute" you mean placing my personal details and pictures on a public forum, then I disagree.
If you know so much about cybersecurity then certainly you understand that women and femme people in particular have an interest and standard in others willing to share and put forth basics of their own.
Hence my opinion that they should not be placing their pictures or information on a public website. And if they felt pressured into doing so, they should reconsider, as there are people like me out there that don't require that in order to consider them someone of worth.
You are not a woman, are talking about how you highly disapprove of *certain* women that you don't even know, and when some of those women come forth and express themselves, you still insist you're right about something you cannot even experience.
Johano:
Number one: You don't know if I am a woman or not, only what I claim to be in my profile.
Number two: That kind of tribalistic thinking is very divisive. Where does that end? "Your opinion is invalid because you are not my (gender, sexual preference, religion, skin color, nationality, whatever) and you cannot, therefore, possibly understand my situation." Ultimately, that means that you consider no one's contrasting opinion valid, because they are not you.
Number three: I emphatically do not "highly disapprove" of anyone doing anything they enjoy, as long as it does not harm others. I apologize if I didn't make that clear enough in the OP. I thought I had.
I did not intend to attack or judge anyone, and thought that I made that clear in the OP. Obviously not, so let me restate:
I have no problem with anyone posting pics of themselves if they enjoy that, and as long as it hurts no one else. IF you feel pressured to do so, please don't give into that. IF you would like to talk to someone who will value your interest, even if you don't post pics, please contact me.
Thank you Munchies for talking to me in a classy way. I know it was classy because you were sipping tea when you did it. And even though you probably don't drink coffee, I still found your opinions valid.
Thank you MVP76 for the same.
Johano:
Number one: You don't know if I am a woman or not, only what I claim to be in my profile.
Number two: That kind of tribalistic thinking is very divisive. Where does that end? "Your opinion is invalid because you are not my (gender, sexual preference, religion, skin color, nationality, whatever) and you cannot, therefore, possibly understand my situation." Ultimately, that means that you consider no one's contrasting opinion valid, because they are not you.
Number three: I emphatically do not "highly disapprove" of anyone doing anything they enjoy, as long as it does not harm others. I apologize if I didn't make that clear enough in the OP. I thought I had.
I did not intend to attack or judge anyone, and thought that I made that clear in the OP. Obviously not, so let me restate:
I have no problem with anyone posting pics of themselves if they enjoy that, and as long as it hurts no one else. IF you feel pressured to do so, please don't give into that. IF you would like to talk to someone who will value your interest, even if you don't post pics, please contact me.
Thank you Munchies for talking to me in a classy way. I know it was classy because you were sipping tea when you did it. And even though you probably don't drink coffee, I still found your opinions valid.
Thank you MVP76 for the same.
It's odd that you will listen to me because I am "classy", but you will not listen to Lora because you perceive her not to be. The tone someone writes or speaks in does not negate the validity of their statement.
Since you are either struggling to read or are being deliberately obtuse, let me restate what she said more clearly.
She did not say, "your opinion is invalid," as you are taking it to be. She is saying that you are speaking on something as an authority that you do not fully comprehend.
You say you work in cybersecurity. How often do you speak to people - professionally and personally - that give you suggestions about how to do your job? I'd assume it to be quite often if you are like any of the IT and cybersecurity people I know. And if that is the case, I'd assume that you would find it annoying or aggravating, depending on the situation.
It's the same concept.
Also, it's rather foolish of you to say, "you only know what's on my profile," when someone draws conclusions based on what you told us about yourself. Why are you upset that people are taking you at your word?
And finally, I will restate why everyone is taking issue with your statements. You portray yourself as a 53-year-old man who inserts himself into places he knows will be sexual. You admit to regularly going to Mari Gras in two different states and thinking to yourself, "These women wouldn't need to be sexually promiscuous if they had someone like me to treat them right." Your first post after being on this site for two days is to tell women to cover up.
You objectify and infantilize women. We do not like it. Please treat us like people and not like like precious objects. Thank you.
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