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Very, very true. Even outside of this fetish, fat people are sexy.

I'm 100 percent more confident at my current weight than I was under 200. I care for my hair, skin, and makeup, and my fiance loves every bulge and curve. I hate the idea that the best revenge on the "hot, mean girl" from high school is weight gain, as though obesity is some terrible fate.

Yeah. Especially since a lot of those hot mea girls were either going through something at the time or weren't actually mean. I've seen guys label pretty girls and women as mean even though they were actually rejecting creeps. Sometimes they weren't even mean about it!

I much prefer stories of people finding liberation in weight gain. Finding joy outside of societal norms without bashing women.

And on that note, the ideal of bookish nerdy women being less attractive than sporty women is sooooo childish. They are equally attractive. You can also be both.

I'm a sporty nerd, and I've never been seen as less than for my bookishness. In fact, when men try to humble me irl and online, my intelligence is my greatest defence.

The thread should be locked, but seeing how a mod had previously commented on it, I doubt it.

Like, I get we all have our fantasies. And I know a lot of people who have this specific fantasy. But this specific thread invites people to fetishize real people who didn't consent. Take OPs inital post. The first picture appears to be a real person.

Who is she? How would she feel about having her picture on a fetish site - especially in this manner. It's not a stock image. It looks like a thirst trap.

But a lot of people don't think about these things. To a lot of people, if it's online, it's fair game.

OP seems to have posted an example pic found online in the public domain. Nobody was identified by name. Mods here exercise appropriate discretion very well compared to other sites.

My wife went with her gf to see Mean Girls this week. Story line in the remake still includes the diet bar sabotage. Guess Hollywood isn't 100% woke.

Bless your heart. At least you tried.

Just because a picture is publicly posted doesn't mean it's in public domain. That's a term reserved for when copyright has expired. Thankfully for OP, he is using this for non-commercial reasons, so that doesn't apply. But law and ethics are two different issues.

Also, someone doesn't have media literacy or understand how Hollywood or "woke" works.

A couple of things. "Woke" is a term created by Jamaican civil rights activist and philosopher Marcus Garvey about being aware to all the ways white supremacy violated and dehumanized people in the Black diaspora. It's been a part of black activism since the 1920s. It entered the mainstream during the height of the BLM movement. From there conservative talking heads perverted the term to mean "people wanting to ruin something good for the sake of diversity". It was a very bold yet effective way to undercut the efforts any activist (or just progressive) trying to improve things for minority groups.

On that note, Hollywood has never been all that woke. The representation it often gives has been white washed and censored for fear of alienated wider (usually straight, white, and/or male audiences). This results in bland, uninspired shows that reinforce the narrative.

However, your average cishet white man is perfectly fine with stories about people that do not look like them so long as the story is good. This has been proven when marginalized voices get to tell their stories the way they want to. The truth is that your average Hollywood exec is deeply bigoted, but wants non-cishet white people to give them money.

Now, back to Mean Girls. It seems you don't have very good media literacy. In the movie, Cady is a new girl that gets wrapped up in a plot to overthrow the Plastics. Cady starts out with decent morals but, over time, she abandons them in the name of social capital. When she secretly fattens Regina, this isn't portrayed to be a good thing.

While the audience might feel some catharsis at Regina being humbled, it's a hollow victory. Cady has become the very thing she sought to destroy, and it's the beginning of the end for her too. In fact, the moral of the entire movie is that you should be true to yourself without tearing down others.

Are there flaws with this movie? Of course. There's no such thing as a perfect movie. But if you think that portraying something bad equals condoning the bad thing, that's a you problem.

Welcome to my world. Like I said, a certain flavor of people have perverted the term and now use it to dismiss people for having basic morals.

Terminology is dynamic. Definitions often vary dramatically based on geographic location.

Example: In Australia, "fag" is a slang reference for a cigarette. In the US, it's an (often contextually derogatory) slang reference for a homosexual man.

Are you telling a black woman that she's wrong about how a term her culture created should be used?

Because I was there when bigots on places like Fox News started to use it in a derogatory way. And I am watching how bigots are using it as a dog whistle.

Tell me why people like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis are waging a "War on Woke" by attacking historically marginalized groups?

This is not an argument you want to get into with me, my dear. This is a topic firmly within my field of expertise backed up with lived experience. And it's very clear to me that you are not as well-versed.