General

Newenglander:
Terminology is dynamic. Definitions often vary dramatically based on geographic location.

Example: In Australia, "fag" is a slang reference for a cigarette. In the US, it's an (often contextually derogatory) slang reference for a homosexual man.

Munchies:
Are you telling a black woman that she's wrong about how a term her culture created should be used?

Because I was there when bigots on places like Fox News started to use it in a derogatory way. And I am watching how bigots are using it as a dog whistle.

Tell me why people like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis are waging a "War on Woke" by attacking historically marginalized groups?

This is not an argument you want to get into with me, my dear. This is a topic firmly within my field of expertise backed up with lived experience. And it's very clear to me that you are not as well-versed.

Newenglander:
Terminology is dynamic. Definitions often vary dramatically based on geographic location.

Example: In Australia, "fag" is a slang reference for a cigarette. In the US, it's an (often contextually derogatory) slang reference for a homosexual man.

Munchies:
Are you telling a black woman that she's wrong about how a term her culture created should be used?

Because I was there when bigots on places like Fox News started to use it in a derogatory way. And I am watching how bigots are using it as a dog whistle.

Tell me why people like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis are waging a "War on Woke" by attacking historically marginalized groups?

This is not an argument you want to get into with me, my dear. This is a topic firmly within my field of expertise backed up with lived experience. And it's very clear to me that you are not as well-versed.

Newenglander:
If you want to know Ron DeSantis' reasoning for his agenda, you'll have to ask him directly. I can't comprehend why he sees himself as some sort of David going against the very Goliath that put him on the map. I'd sum Ron up as impatient and duplicitous.

Words have different meanings in different regions. Just because a term originates in a particular culture doesn't preclude others from utilizing it for a different purpose.

Perhaps some folks associated with BLM may be to blame for associating the term "woke" with the criminal leftist, Marxist movement and globalist agenda attempting to destroy traditional western republics. Not all BLM chapters are in unison with supporting this agenda.

BLM RI's senior director Mark Fisher endorsed President Trump ahead of the upcoming election. Mr. Fisher understands the merits of liberty and equality versus subjugation and equity.

As for Fox News, I doubt they wield much influence any longer, particularly after having abandoned their core demographic over the last few years. Cable news in general is out of touch with today's news consumer, as evidenced by their aggregate ratings decline.

Woke by and large never meant to most Americans what it meant in in post-colonial Jamaica. To pretend others in contemporary western society, particularly the low-information masses, will associate the term with its original definition is delusional.

Think of how the term "Jeep" is often used to refer to any off-road vehicle, whether or not it's actually a Jeep product. "Kleenex" is another example. It's commonly known to most Americans to reference facial tissue, regardless of the manufacturer. Most folks have no idea the origin of a brand or term.

Today's brand of "woke" is being rejected en masse. Disney's revenue is down. Target's stock is down. AB InBev is desperately trying to disassociate their Bud Light brand from a marketing campaign which drove beer consumers away in droves, now pushing patriotic themes instead. Argentina and Taiwan just elected nationalist leaders, dealing a huge blow to the leftist global elite. People the world over are fed up.

I get it, you're steadfast in your disagreement with my viewpoints. You might even despise me as a person. These are your God-given rights as an American citizen, as described in our Bill of Rights!

This was supposed to be a thread about young fit women getting obese after entering the workforce.

If you want to know Ron DeSantis' reasoning for his agenda, you'll have to ask him directly. I can't comprehend why he sees himself as some sort of David going against the very Goliath that put him on the map. I'd sum Ron up as impatient and duplicitous.

Words have different meanings in different regions. Just because a term originates in a particular culture doesn't preclude others from utilizing it for a different purpose.

Perhaps some folks associated with BLM may be to blame for associating the term "woke" with the criminal leftist, Marxist movement and globalist agenda attempting to destroy traditional western republics. Not all BLM chapters are in unison with supporting this agenda.

BLM RI's senior director Mark Fisher endorsed President Trump ahead of the upcoming election. Mr. Fisher understands the merits of liberty and equality versus subjugation and equity.

As for Fox News, I doubt they wield much influence any longer, particularly after having abandoned their core demographic over the last few years. Cable news in general is out of touch with today's news consumer, as evidenced by their aggregate ratings decline.

Woke by and large never meant to most Americans what it meant in in post-colonial Jamaica. To pretend others in contemporary western society, particularly the low-information masses, will associate the term with its original definition is delusional.

Think of how the term "Jeep" is often used to refer to any off-road vehicle, whether or not it's actually a Jeep product. "Kleenex" is another example. It's commonly known to most Americans to reference facial tissue, regardless of the manufacturer. Most folks have no idea the origin of a brand or term.

As for Fox News, I doubt they wield much influence any longer, particularly after having abandoned their core demographic over the last few years. Cable news in general is out of touch with today's news consumer, as evidenced by their aggregate ratings decline.

Woke by and large never meant to most Americans what it meant in in post-colonial Jamaica. To pretend others in contemporary western society, particularly the low-information masses, will associate the term with its original definition is delusional.

Munchies:
I wholeheartedly agree with you about the first part, so I will leave that as is. But you are greatly misunderstanding everything about the second one.

Marcus Garvey was Jamaican, but the term isn't a Jamaican term. It's a black term made by a Jamaican man.

Garvey was part of the Pan-African movement - an international movement centered on the plight of the black diaspora. It included people from the Caribbean Islands, American, Canada, Europe, and various African nations. And about 100 years later it retains it's original meaning. And though non-black people are welcome to use it, a specific flavor of anti-progressive people are against it. They even coined the term "wokeism" to show how much they hate the word.

This is an active, perversion of a civil rights term. It is an active attempt to disempower a minority group. It is malicious, and people are fighting back:

naacpldf.org/woke-black-bad/

Today's brand of "woke" is being rejected en masse. Disney's revenue is down. Target's stock is down. AB InBev is desperately trying to disassociate their Bud Light brand from a marketing campaign which drove beer consumers away in droves, now pushing patriotic themes instead. Argentina and Taiwan just elected nationalist leaders, dealing a huge blow to the leftist global elite. People the world over are fed up

As for Fox News, I doubt they wield much influence any longer, particularly after having abandoned their core demographic over the last few years. Cable news in general is out of touch with today's news consumer, as evidenced by their aggregate ratings decline.

Woke by and large never meant to most Americans what it meant in in post-colonial Jamaica. To pretend others in contemporary western society, particularly the low-information masses, will associate the term with its original definition is delusional.

Munchies:
I wholeheartedly agree with you about the first part, so I will leave that as is. But you are greatly misunderstanding everything about the second one.

Marcus Garvey was Jamaican, but the term isn't a Jamaican term. It's a black term made by a Jamaican man.

Garvey was part of the Pan-African movement - an international movement centered on the plight of the black diaspora. It included people from the Caribbean Islands, American, Canada, Europe, and various African nations. And about 100 years later it retains it's original meaning. And though non-black people are welcome to use it, a specific flavor of anti-progressive people are against it. They even coined the term "wokeism" to show how much they hate the word.

This is an active, perversion of a civil rights term. It is an active attempt to disempower a minority group. It is malicious, and people are fighting back:

naacpldf.org/woke-black-bad/

Nofbar:
There is indeed a perversion going on, but the source is not what we're supposed to believe. "Woke" is being used not as a warning against BS, but as a weapon against dissent.

George Orwell warned against such perversions.