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Seeing the cute slim guy/girl blow up

Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.
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Seeing the cute slim guy/girl blow up

Fatforfun:
Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.


You will note that I am painting in broad strokes.

That said, I took a glace at your story and um ...

Are you sure you want me to explore the themes therein.

Because I can. I will be fair about it, but are you really sure you want me to do that?
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Seeing the cute slim guy/girl blow up



Glitter Jelly:
I've often wondered about that, since this theme is so prevalent in the stories section...

Letters And Numbers:
If I had to guess, there might be 2 things going on:

1) That kind of revenge-by-getting-fat trope is common in a lot of media, it's been around forever, and I'm sure there are quite a few people in this community today who discovered they liked weight gain (or erotic weight gain media) because of tropes like that in "straight" media -- they just liked it for a different reason than how the author intended, maybe. Maybe not.

2) A lot of the stories on this site are taking well worn tropes like this one and putting the author's own take on it, and the author might not be thinking that hard about the origin of the trope they're mimicking, because it's something they always thought was hot. They might not have seen it the way it was intended to be seen, kinda subverting a problematic trope, but maybe inexpertly making that clear. Or not. It's amateur art, though, people trying things out.

Munchies:
I think this is true in terms of surface level, individual reasons. But the popularity also speaks to feedist culture. As much as feedism is countercultural, feedist still live in a fatphobic world. I do not think a lot of feedists have interrogated these influences as a whole.

I noticed revenge weight gain stories follow a general beat. Mean person is skinny and hot. As punishment for their sins, they get fat. Society rejects them, their life is ruined, and then they get fatter. Bonus points if the mean person joins the other loser fatties or the loser fatty they bullied become skinny and hot.

Notice how this frames fat as bad and skinny as good. There are, of course, variations on an individual level, but this is how the bulk of them go. From where I sit, this suggests feeling ashamed of their kinks and fetishes. They find fat sexy (the porn part) while also negociating some level of fatphobia (the revenge part).

But I suppose it makes sense. A lot of people sexualize what they find taboo.


Yeah, I don’t know that a lot of people think that hard about it, they just know they like what they like. Some people are also very into the teasing/humiliation part of the fetish, which plays into stories like these, too.
1 month

Seeing the cute slim guy/girl blow up



Glitter Jelly:
I've often wondered about that, since this theme is so prevalent in the stories section...

Letters And Numbers:
If I had to guess, there might be 2 things going on:

1) That kind of revenge-by-getting-fat trope is common in a lot of media, it's been around forever, and I'm sure there are quite a few people in this community today who discovered they liked weight gain (or erotic weight gain media) because of tropes like that in "straight" media -- they just liked it for a different reason than how the author intended, maybe. Maybe not.

2) A lot of the stories on this site are taking well worn tropes like this one and putting the author's own take on it, and the author might not be thinking that hard about the origin of the trope they're mimicking, because it's something they always thought was hot. They might not have seen it the way it was intended to be seen, kinda subverting a problematic trope, but maybe inexpertly making that clear. Or not. It's amateur art, though, people trying things out.

Munchies:
I think this is true in terms of surface level, individual reasons. But the popularity also speaks to feedist culture. As much as feedism is countercultural, feedist still live in a fatphobic world. I do not think a lot of feedists have interrogated these influences as a whole.

I noticed revenge weight gain stories follow a general beat. Mean person is skinny and hot. As punishment for their sins, they get fat. Society rejects them, their life is ruined, and then they get fatter. Bonus points if the mean person joins the other loser fatties or the loser fatty they bullied become skinny and hot.

Notice how this frames fat as bad and skinny as good. There are, of course, variations on an individual level, but this is how the bulk of them go. From where I sit, this suggests feeling ashamed of their kinks and fetishes. They find fat sexy (the porn part) while also negociating some level of fatphobia (the revenge part).

But I suppose it makes sense. A lot of people sexualize what they find taboo.

Letters And Numbers:
Yeah, I don’t know that a lot of people think that hard about it, they just know they like what they like. Some people are also very into the teasing/humiliation part of the fetish, which plays into stories like these, too.


They might not be thinking that hard about it but the themes are still present and it can still lead to stigmatization. I'm a feedee and I don't have a humiliation fetish, so when I hear other people's real stories or read people's fictional ones about how fat is bad and fat people are ostracized for their weight, but actually they're sexy but actually they should feel ashamed. It demotivates me from wanting to gain even just a little bit because I don't want to be humiliated.
I'm not saying this to say "we need to ban these stories because they hurt people's feelings", because a lot of people do enjoy the humiliation factor. I just think we need to be careful how we judge people who don't share this fetish and who don't want to gain weight but just have due to other circumstances. Because even though they aren't part of our circle, the way we treat and view them, affects how we treat and view feedees/gainers in our circle.
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Seeing the cute slim guy/girl blow up

Letters And Numbers:
Yeah, I don’t know that a lot of people think that hard about it, they just know they like what they like. Some people are also very into the teasing/humiliation part of the fetish, which plays into stories like these, too.


Look, despite allegations to the contrary, I am not a prude. I'm probably freakier than most people. Hell, I have written stories with detailed torture scenes. But the prevelence of how popular these themes are speaks to a wider problem in the community.

I talk to a lot of people on here. And I've noticed a lot of users feel ashamed of fat. Whether it be how they want to be fat, fatten people up, or just have a fat partner, so many people hate they like fattness. And shame has away of evolving into weird situations.

This is not to say exploring theme of fatphobia are bad. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with writing or enjoying revenge weight gain stories. But we as a community need to better interrogate our relationship with fatness. Ask ourselves if we are satisfied with how things are.

Based on the many people I've spoken to over the years, the answer seems to be no.
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Seeing the cute slim guy/girl blow up


SumoSized:
They might not be thinking that hard about it but the themes are still present and it can still lead to stigmatization. I'm a feedee and I don't have a humiliation fetish, so when I hear other people's real stories or read people's fictional ones about how fat is bad and fat people are ostracized for their weight, but actually they're sexy but actually they should feel ashamed. It demotivates me from wanting to gain even just a little bit because I don't want to be humiliated.
I'm not saying this to say "we need to ban these stories because they hurt people's feelings", because a lot of people do enjoy the humiliation factor. I just think we need to be careful how we judge people who don't share this fetish and who don't want to gain weight but just have due to other circumstances. Because even though they aren't part of our circle, the way we treat and view them, affects how we treat and view feedees/gainers in our circle.


I think a lot of people get into the whole "Don't yuck my yum" mentality that they don't examine their yum in the first place. They have deep, conflicting feelings that they don't want to explore.

And I get that. Introspection is scary.

But I have spoken to a lot of feedees, gainers, encouragers, and feeders. A lot of them admit to seeing fat people like a dirty little secret. A lot of fat people notice those that fetishize them often see them as less than. It's really sad.
1 month

Seeing the cute slim guy/girl blow up


SumoSized:
They might not be thinking that hard about it but the themes are still present and it can still lead to stigmatization. I'm a feedee and I don't have a humiliation fetish, so when I hear other people's real stories or read people's fictional ones about how fat is bad and fat people are ostracized for their weight, but actually they're sexy but actually they should feel ashamed. It demotivates me from wanting to gain even just a little bit because I don't want to be humiliated.
I'm not saying this to say "we need to ban these stories because they hurt people's feelings", because a lot of people do enjoy the humiliation factor. I just think we need to be careful how we judge people who don't share this fetish and who don't want to gain weight but just have due to other circumstances. Because even though they aren't part of our circle, the way we treat and view them, affects how we treat and view feedees/gainers in our circle.

Munchies:
I think a lot of people get into the whole "Don't yuck my yum" mentality that they don't examine their yum in the first place. They have deep, conflicting feelings that they don't want to explore.

And I get that. Introspection is scary.

But I have spoken to a lot of feedees, gainers, encouragers, and feeders. A lot of them admit to seeing fat people like a dirty little secret. A lot of fat people that those that fetishize them as less than. It's really sad.

You'd think people in this community would be against fatphobia, but it's still startling to me how engrained it is. It's almost like some people are only into it because it's taboo, and so if peoples weights became more normalized, they would lose interest.
1 month

Seeing the cute slim guy/girl blow up


SumoSized:
They might not be thinking that hard about it but the themes are still present and it can still lead to stigmatization. I'm a feedee and I don't have a humiliation fetish, so when I hear other people's real stories or read people's fictional ones about how fat is bad and fat people are ostracized for their weight, but actually they're sexy but actually they should feel ashamed. It demotivates me from wanting to gain even just a little bit because I don't want to be humiliated.
I'm not saying this to say "we need to ban these stories because they hurt people's feelings", because a lot of people do enjoy the humiliation factor. I just think we need to be careful how we judge people who don't share this fetish and who don't want to gain weight but just have due to other circumstances. Because even though they aren't part of our circle, the way we treat and view them, affects how we treat and view feedees/gainers in our circle.

Munchies:
I think a lot of people get into the whole "Don't yuck my yum" mentality that they don't examine their yum in the first place. They have deep, conflicting feelings that they don't want to explore.

And I get that. Introspection is scary.

But I have spoken to a lot of feedees, gainers, encouragers, and feeders. A lot of them admit to seeing fat people like a dirty little secret. A lot of fat people that those that fetishize them as less than. It's really sad.

SumoSized:
You'd think people in this community would be against fatphobia, but it's still startling to me how engrained it is. It's almost like some people are only into it because it's taboo, and so if peoples weights became more normalized, they would lose interest.


You may be onto something. It would explain why people keep gravitating towards the extremes.
1 month

Seeing the cute slim guy/girl blow up

Fatforfun:
Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.

Munchies:
You will note that I am painting in broad strokes.

That said, I took a glace at your story and um ...

Are you sure you want me to explore the themes therein.

Because I can. I will be fair about it, but are you really sure you want me to do that?
I'm not looking for conflict, Munchies. Like I said, in general I agree with you. I just thought you might like to see an exception.
1 month

Seeing the cute slim guy/girl blow up

Fatforfun:
Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.

Munchies:
You will note that I am painting in broad strokes.

That said, I took a glace at your story and um ...

Are you sure you want me to explore the themes therein.

Because I can. I will be fair about it, but are you really sure you want me to do that?

Fatforfun:
I'm not looking for conflict, Munchies. Like I said, in general I agree with you. I just thought you might like to see an exception.


I'm not looking for conflict either. If I was, you'd have it already.

That said, having read what you wrote, I am not seeing any so-called exceptions. And while I am open to discussing it with you in a non-hostile way, I am pretty sure my thoughts will offend you.
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