General

Letters And Numbers:
Yeah, I don’t know that a lot of people think that hard about it, they just know they like what they like. Some people are also very into the teasing/humiliation part of the fetish, which plays into stories like these, too.

SumoSized:
They might not be thinking that hard about it but the themes are still present and it can still lead to stigmatization. I'm a feedee and I don't have a humiliation fetish, so when I hear other people's real stories or read people's fictional ones about how fat is bad and fat people are ostracized for their weight, but actually they're sexy but actually they should feel ashamed. It demotivates me from wanting to gain even just a little bit because I don't want to be humiliated.
I'm not saying this to say "we need to ban these stories because they hurt people's feelings", because a lot of people do enjoy the humiliation factor. I just think we need to be careful how we judge people who don't share this fetish and who don't want to gain weight but just have due to other circumstances. Because even though they aren't part of our circle, the way we treat and view them, affects how we treat and view feedees/gainers in our circle.

SumoSized:
They might not be thinking that hard about it but the themes are still present and it can still lead to stigmatization. I'm a feedee and I don't have a humiliation fetish, so when I hear other people's real stories or read people's fictional ones about how fat is bad and fat people are ostracized for their weight, but actually they're sexy but actually they should feel ashamed. It demotivates me from wanting to gain even just a little bit because I don't want to be humiliated.
I'm not saying this to say "we need to ban these stories because they hurt people's feelings", because a lot of people do enjoy the humiliation factor. I just think we need to be careful how we judge people who don't share this fetish and who don't want to gain weight but just have due to other circumstances. Because even though they aren't part of our circle, the way we treat and view them, affects how we treat and view feedees/gainers in our circle.

Munchies:
I think a lot of people get into the whole "Don't yuck my yum" mentality that they don't examine their yum in the first place. They have deep, conflicting feelings that they don't want to explore.

And I get that. Introspection is scary.

But I have spoken to a lot of feedees, gainers, encouragers, and feeders. A lot of them admit to seeing fat people like a dirty little secret. A lot of fat people that those that fetishize them as less than. It's really sad.

SumoSized:
You'd think people in this community would be against fatphobia, but it's still startling to me how engrained it is. It's almost like some people are only into it because it's taboo, and so if peoples weights became more normalized, they would lose interest.

Fatforfun:
Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.

Munchies:
You will note that I am painting in broad strokes.

That said, I took a glace at your story and um ...

Are you sure you want me to explore the themes therein.

Because I can. I will be fair about it, but are you really sure you want me to do that?

Fatforfun:
Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.

Munchies:
You will note that I am painting in broad strokes.

That said, I took a glace at your story and um ...

Are you sure you want me to explore the themes therein.

Because I can. I will be fair about it, but are you really sure you want me to do that?

Fatforfun:
I'm not looking for conflict, Munchies. Like I said, in general I agree with you. I just thought you might like to see an exception.

Glitter Jelly:
I've often wondered about that, since this theme is so prevalent in the stories section...

Letters And Numbers:
If I had to guess, there might be 2 things going on:

1) That kind of revenge-by-getting-fat trope is common in a lot of media, it's been around forever, and I'm sure there are quite a few people in this community today who discovered they liked weight gain (or erotic weight gain media) because of tropes like that in "straight" media -- they just liked it for a different reason than how the author intended, maybe. Maybe not.

2) A lot of the stories on this site are taking well worn tropes like this one and putting the author's own take on it, and the author might not be thinking that hard about the origin of the trope they're mimicking, because it's something they always thought was hot. They might not have seen it the way it was intended to be seen, kinda subverting a problematic trope, but maybe inexpertly making that clear. Or not. It's amateur art, though, people trying things out.

Munchies:
I think this is true in terms of surface level, individual reasons. But the popularity also speaks to feedist culture. As much as feedism is countercultural, feedist still live in a fatphobic world. I do not think a lot of feedists have interrogated these influences as a whole.

I noticed revenge weight gain stories follow a general beat. Mean person is skinny and hot. As punishment for their sins, they get fat. Society rejects them, their life is ruined, and then they get fatter. Bonus points if the mean person joins the other loser fatties or the loser fatty they bullied become skinny and hot.

Notice how this frames fat as bad and skinny as good. There are, of course, variations on an individual level, but this is how the bulk of them go. From where I sit, this suggests feeling ashamed of their kinks and fetishes. They find fat sexy (the porn part) while also negociating some level of fatphobia (the revenge part).

But I suppose it makes sense. A lot of people sexualize what they find taboo.

Morbidly A Beast:
when you are 400+ it’s hard not to notice when people talk about fat people they are talking about you and as sex postive/non kink shaming you can be it’s hard to see fat humiliation stuff as a valid expression of a persons kink and not just blatant fat phobia

A particular one that irks me is ruination, like brother im not ruined, i just like to overeat

Glitter Jelly:
Makes a lot of sense.

I'm not sure how I feel about these stories... I've read many of them but I often feel bad for the protagonist as I'm not into gaining weight myself and feel strongly that secretly fattening someone is not OK.

I've been bullied a lot for being heavier than my classmates so I'd be lying if I pretended I wouldn't feel some satisfaction if I came across one of these mean girls and she had gained a lot of weight.

I used to think of it as karma but I acknowledge this is the socially conditioned fat-phobic part of me that is responsible for that kind of thinking.

Even if they were much fatter than me, I wouldn't go as far as pointing it out to them or humiliating them, however. I wouldn't want them to feel the same way I felt because it leaves scars on your psyche.

I think intentionally getting fat as a way of saying f**k you to diet culture and revolt against current beauty standards. I'm not there yet but can see myself getting here if/when I'll be fed up with trying to shrink my body against its nature.

Fatforfun:
Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.

Munchies:
You will note that I am painting in broad strokes.

That said, I took a glace at your story and um ...

Are you sure you want me to explore the themes therein.

Because I can. I will be fair about it, but are you really sure you want me to do that?

Fatforfun:
I'm not looking for conflict, Munchies. Like I said, in general I agree with you. I just thought you might like to see an exception.

Munchies:
I'm not looking for conflict either. If I was, you'd have it already.

That said, having read what you wrote, I am not seeing any so-called exceptions. And while I am open to discussing it with you in a non-hostile way, I am pretty sure my thoughts will offend you.

SumoSized:
That's also another issue, some of these stories are just straight up domestic abuse, and then people actually turn around and want to bring these ideas into their relationships. Like I've only been on the platform for a couple months and every once in a while I'll see someone post asking for advice on how to secretly fatten their partner, which is sickening and should qualify as abuse. While there are a lot of perks of being larger, there are also downsides, and people just have their own preferences. Luckily these posts usually get shut down pretty quick, but it's still unacceptable people actually think that way