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Fatforfun:
Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.

Munchies:
You will note that I am painting in broad strokes.

That said, I took a glace at your story and um ...

Are you sure you want me to explore the themes therein.

Because I can. I will be fair about it, but are you really sure you want me to do that?

Fatforfun:
I'm not looking for conflict, Munchies. Like I said, in general I agree with you. I just thought you might like to see an exception.


I'm not looking for conflict either. If I was, you'd have it already.

That said, having read what you wrote, I am not seeing any so-called exceptions. And while I am open to discussing it with you in a non-hostile way, I am pretty sure my thoughts will offend you.
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Glitter Jelly:
I've often wondered about that, since this theme is so prevalent in the stories section...

Letters And Numbers:
If I had to guess, there might be 2 things going on:

1) That kind of revenge-by-getting-fat trope is common in a lot of media, it's been around forever, and I'm sure there are quite a few people in this community today who discovered they liked weight gain (or erotic weight gain media) because of tropes like that in "straight" media -- they just liked it for a different reason than how the author intended, maybe. Maybe not.

2) A lot of the stories on this site are taking well worn tropes like this one and putting the author's own take on it, and the author might not be thinking that hard about the origin of the trope they're mimicking, because it's something they always thought was hot. They might not have seen it the way it was intended to be seen, kinda subverting a problematic trope, but maybe inexpertly making that clear. Or not. It's amateur art, though, people trying things out.

Munchies:
I think this is true in terms of surface level, individual reasons. But the popularity also speaks to feedist culture. As much as feedism is countercultural, feedist still live in a fatphobic world. I do not think a lot of feedists have interrogated these influences as a whole.

I noticed revenge weight gain stories follow a general beat. Mean person is skinny and hot. As punishment for their sins, they get fat. Society rejects them, their life is ruined, and then they get fatter. Bonus points if the mean person joins the other loser fatties or the loser fatty they bullied become skinny and hot.

Notice how this frames fat as bad and skinny as good. There are, of course, variations on an individual level, but this is how the bulk of them go. From where I sit, this suggests feeling ashamed of their kinks and fetishes. They find fat sexy (the porn part) while also negociating some level of fatphobia (the revenge part).

But I suppose it makes sense. A lot of people sexualize what they find taboo.


Makes a lot of sense.

I'm not sure how I feel about these stories... I've read many of them but I often feel bad for the protagonist as I'm not into gaining weight myself and feel strongly that secretly fattening someone is not OK.

I've been bullied a lot for being heavier than my classmates so I'd be lying if I pretended I wouldn't feel some satisfaction if I came across one of these mean girls and she had gained a lot of weight.

I used to think of it as karma but I acknowledge this is the socially conditioned fat-phobic part of me that is responsible for that kind of thinking.

Even if they were much fatter than me, I wouldn't go as far as pointing it out to them or humiliating them, however. I wouldn't want them to feel the same way I felt because it leaves scars on your psyche.

I think intentionally getting fat as a way of saying f**k you to diet culture and revolt against current beauty standards. I'm not there yet but can see myself getting here if/when I'll be fed up with trying to shrink my body against its nature.
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when you are 400+ it’s hard not to notice when people talk about fat people they are talking about you and as sex postive/non kink shaming you can be it’s hard to see fat humiliation stuff as a valid expression of a persons kink and not just blatant fat phobia

A particular one that irks me is ruination, like brother im not ruined, i just like to overeat
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Glitter Jelly:
Makes a lot of sense.

I'm not sure how I feel about these stories... I've read many of them but I often feel bad for the protagonist as I'm not into gaining weight myself and feel strongly that secretly fattening someone is not OK.

I've been bullied a lot for being heavier than my classmates so I'd be lying if I pretended I wouldn't feel some satisfaction if I came across one of these mean girls and she had gained a lot of weight.

I used to think of it as karma but I acknowledge this is the socially conditioned fat-phobic part of me that is responsible for that kind of thinking.

Even if they were much fatter than me, I wouldn't go as far as pointing it out to them or humiliating them, however. I wouldn't want them to feel the same way I felt because it leaves scars on your psyche.

I think intentionally getting fat as a way of saying f**k you to diet culture and revolt against current beauty standards. I'm not there yet but can see myself getting here if/when I'll be fed up with trying to shrink my body against its nature.

That's also another issue, some of these stories are just straight up domestic abuse, and then people actually turn around and want to bring these ideas into their relationships. Like I've only been on the platform for a couple months and every once in a while I'll see someone post asking for advice on how to secretly fatten their partner, which is sickening and should qualify as abuse. While there are a lot of perks of being larger, there are also downsides, and people just have their own preferences. Luckily these posts usually get shut down pretty quick, but it's still unacceptable people actually think that way
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Morbidly A Beast:
when you are 400+ it’s hard not to notice when people talk about fat people they are talking about you and as sex postive/non kink shaming you can be it’s hard to see fat humiliation stuff as a valid expression of a persons kink and not just blatant fat phobia

A particular one that irks me is ruination, like brother im not ruined, i just like to overeat


It's complicated to be sure. I've had partners with an exhibitionist streak that loved humiliation, denigration, and ruination. From what I gathered, they took a spiteful pride in being something others wouldn't want to be.

Meanwhile, my current partner loves twisted praise. He loves it when I call him fat hog or glutton because he knows we both like these aspects of himself. He is also something of an exhibitionist.

Of course, all of my feedist partners, past and present, are masochists, so take that as you will.
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Glitter Jelly:
Makes a lot of sense.

I'm not sure how I feel about these stories... I've read many of them but I often feel bad for the protagonist as I'm not into gaining weight myself and feel strongly that secretly fattening someone is not OK.

I've been bullied a lot for being heavier than my classmates so I'd be lying if I pretended I wouldn't feel some satisfaction if I came across one of these mean girls and she had gained a lot of weight.

I used to think of it as karma but I acknowledge this is the socially conditioned fat-phobic part of me that is responsible for that kind of thinking.

Even if they were much fatter than me, I wouldn't go as far as pointing it out to them or humiliating them, however. I wouldn't want them to feel the same way I felt because it leaves scars on your psyche.

I think intentionally getting fat as a way of saying f**k you to diet culture and revolt against current beauty standards. I'm not there yet but can see myself getting here if/when I'll be fed up with trying to shrink my body against its nature.


I've seen a lot of feedists recovering from ED say that feedism helped them. To be clear, I am not saying that feedism is a cure for ED. I've seen many people go from one extreme to the other. Still, there's something to be said about being in an environment that keeps telling you the parts you hate about yourself are beautiful.
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Fatforfun:
Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.

Munchies:
You will note that I am painting in broad strokes.

That said, I took a glace at your story and um ...

Are you sure you want me to explore the themes therein.

Because I can. I will be fair about it, but are you really sure you want me to do that?

Fatforfun:
I'm not looking for conflict, Munchies. Like I said, in general I agree with you. I just thought you might like to see an exception.

Munchies:
I'm not looking for conflict either. If I was, you'd have it already.

That said, having read what you wrote, I am not seeing any so-called exceptions. And while I am open to discussing it with you in a non-hostile way, I am pretty sure my thoughts will offend you.
[Maybe I misunderstood what you wrote. I thought that you were saying that revenges stories always end with the person who gets fat being rejected by society. My story has the person who got fat becoming a better person and accepted for that. That's the exception that I mean.]
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SumoSized:
That's also another issue, some of these stories are just straight up domestic abuse, and then people actually turn around and want to bring these ideas into their relationships. Like I've only been on the platform for a couple months and every once in a while I'll see someone post asking for advice on how to secretly fatten their partner, which is sickening and should qualify as abuse. While there are a lot of perks of being larger, there are also downsides, and people just have their own preferences. Luckily these posts usually get shut down pretty quick, but it's still unacceptable people actually think that way


Secretly fattening someone up is abuse. In some places, it's also a crime. This is why the community is so quick to bash these people and shut them down.

But you are right about these stories containing blatant abuse. To be clear, I am not saying writing about themes of abuse is bad. But it depends on how you handle it.

A common theme in revenge weight gain stories is that the wronged party will take away the bully's agency to fatten them up. Common tactics include secret fattening, non-con force-feeding, and coercion, which is often taken as morally correct.

Pair this with the fact that most of these stories involve a socially rejecting man taking revenge on a woman who "doesn't know her place" and her crime is often rejecting the man/being a gold digger.

To be clear, I am not saying these stories are influencing people to go around and do these things to people. And you are not necessarily a bad person if you write such things.

Instead, I think the prevalence of these stories is a symptom of a much bigger issue. In truth, a lot of feedists see fat people as lesser. Idk what the statistics are, but anecdotally, there are a lot.

Also, many feeders and FAs in the online space feel like social rejects who can't find love. They come to places like FF thinking things will be better, only to discover they are not. They soon become bitter and spiteful.

Revenge weight gain stories are power fantasies first and foremost. We all love a good fantasy, but social rejects flock to them like seagulls. And that anger comes out in the stories they write. The more twisted it is, the better.
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Fatforfun:
Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.

Munchies:
You will note that I am painting in broad strokes.

That said, I took a glace at your story and um ...

Are you sure you want me to explore the themes therein.

Because I can. I will be fair about it, but are you really sure you want me to do that?

Fatforfun:
I'm not looking for conflict, Munchies. Like I said, in general I agree with you. I just thought you might like to see an exception.

Munchies:
I'm not looking for conflict either. If I was, you'd have it already.

That said, having read what you wrote, I am not seeing any so-called exceptions. And while I am open to discussing it with you in a non-hostile way, I am pretty sure my thoughts will offend you.

Fatforfun:
[Maybe I misunderstood what you wrote. I thought that you were saying that revenges stories always end with the person who gets fat being rejected by society. My story has the person who got fat becoming a better person and accepted for that. That's the exception that I mean.]


Yeah, you did misunderstand. I said revenge weight gain stories have a typical beat, but variations exist. Your story is usual for the genre, with some mild variations. This is common when you are writing in any genre.

An exception would be something drastic that you never really see. For example, the person exacting revenge feels guilty and turns himself in, the revenge victim escapes, never to be seen again, or the person getting revenge is the villain, not the story's hero.

After all, what is a revenge weight gain story if not a power fantasy?
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My first girlfriend was petite. She used to ridicule even slightly overweight girls, let alone obese ones. This girl said some incredibly nasty things, always behind their backs. That never sat right with me, but I lacked the confidence at the time to speak up.

Fast forward over 20 years. Recently, I spotted her picking up her kids. She didn't notice me but that girl was sporting a prominent weight gain. She got fat and flabby all over which I could easily tell despite her efforts to conceal it with baggy lounge wear.

This was satisfying on two levels. Karma seemingly bit her in the ass, but I also found her more physically appealing than when we dated.
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