1 month
Longevity
Morbidly A Beast:
It’s weird how our modern culture is really weird around death but in the past it was more understood and accepted as an aspect of life - In pretty much all culture it’s only moderns that are goofy about it going on about how their going to live forever
It’s weird how our modern culture is really weird around death but in the past it was more understood and accepted as an aspect of life - In pretty much all culture it’s only moderns that are goofy about it going on about how their going to live forever
Ha ha! Well back then most people didn’t live very long because of wars, executions and lack of hygiene that caused many diseases. At least now we didn’t have to worry about what life was like back in the day… for the most part.
1 month
Longevity
Morbidly A Beast:
It’s weird how our modern culture is really weird around death but in the past it was more understood and accepted as an aspect of life - In pretty much all culture it’s only moderns that are goofy about it going on about how their going to live forever
JN_TumLover56:
Ha ha! Well back then most people didn’t live very long because of wars, executions and lack of hygiene that caused many diseases. At least now we didn’t have to worry about what life was like back in the day… for the most part.
It’s weird how our modern culture is really weird around death but in the past it was more understood and accepted as an aspect of life - In pretty much all culture it’s only moderns that are goofy about it going on about how their going to live forever
JN_TumLover56:
Ha ha! Well back then most people didn’t live very long because of wars, executions and lack of hygiene that caused many diseases. At least now we didn’t have to worry about what life was like back in the day… for the most part.
Maybe because death was more common but I think we got weird around death because we lost our connection to transcendent values.
1 month
Longevity
Morbidly A Beast:
It’s weird how our modern culture is really weird around death but in the past it was more understood and accepted as an aspect of life - In pretty much all culture it’s only moderns that are goofy about it going on about how their going to live forever
JN_TumLover56:
Ha ha! Well back then most people didn’t live very long because of wars, executions and lack of hygiene that caused many diseases. At least now we didn’t have to worry about what life was like back in the day… for the most part.
Morbidly A Beast:
Maybe because death was more common but I think we got weird around death because we lost our connection to transcendent values.
It’s weird how our modern culture is really weird around death but in the past it was more understood and accepted as an aspect of life - In pretty much all culture it’s only moderns that are goofy about it going on about how their going to live forever
JN_TumLover56:
Ha ha! Well back then most people didn’t live very long because of wars, executions and lack of hygiene that caused many diseases. At least now we didn’t have to worry about what life was like back in the day… for the most part.
Morbidly A Beast:
Maybe because death was more common but I think we got weird around death because we lost our connection to transcendent values.
Sorta. We got weird about death because Capitalism.
Back in the day, death was a very intimate affair. When you died, your family, friends, and community cared for you. They'd wash you, dress you, propped you up to take one last group photo, and your wake was in the living room.
But then the funeral industry realized they could make more money by offering to do those things for the family for a fee. Pair this with them lobbying the government to push laws that lined their pockets and propaganda about the newly dead being filled with icky corpse germs that make you sick and die. Now you have a society so removed from death that they will spend oodles of money to avoid it.
1 month
Longevity
Munchies:[quote/]
orderofthegooddeath.com/death-positive-movement/
End of life care is very cold, and how we treat the elderly and infirm is appalling. It's no wonder that most people want nothing to do with it.
We all want a good life, but it shouldn't be lived in fear of death. For death comes for us all.[/quote]
***** Thanks for the link to Order of the Good Death. I enjoyed the sentiments there.
I am older than most here so I might have a different perspective. The way things are set up, it is difficult to retire and I was so relieved to get past that hurdle, BUT, having accomplished that, I turned around and saw that there was this giant cliff I still had to climb and that is taking care of yourself after you retire.
The cost of Elder Care is astronomical - thousands of dollars a month and completely beyond most people's capabilities. It appears you have to sell everything you have to pay for it and get down to assets less than 2000 a month and then become a ward of the state in whatever facility they throw you into. All privacy is revoked.
So in terms of wanting longevity, I would not want that type of longevity wasting away in a bed in an elder ward. It would be nice if one could bow out medically (assisted suicide or euthanasia) when that time comes. But the health care system is very greedy and wants you to transfer all your wealth to them in the last stages of your life.
For me, even though it might be crazy, having fun and enjoying life and putting on pounds and having a friends around me who enjoy food is a good option. With continually gaining weight there is bound to be a tipping point eventually where something goes wrong and I keel over, (hopefully with a quick heart attack or stroke) but isn't that a better end than being propped up medically while they literally suck the life out of you SLOWLY and fill their pocketbooks?
orderofthegooddeath.com/death-positive-movement/
End of life care is very cold, and how we treat the elderly and infirm is appalling. It's no wonder that most people want nothing to do with it.
We all want a good life, but it shouldn't be lived in fear of death. For death comes for us all.[/quote]
***** Thanks for the link to Order of the Good Death. I enjoyed the sentiments there.
I am older than most here so I might have a different perspective. The way things are set up, it is difficult to retire and I was so relieved to get past that hurdle, BUT, having accomplished that, I turned around and saw that there was this giant cliff I still had to climb and that is taking care of yourself after you retire.
The cost of Elder Care is astronomical - thousands of dollars a month and completely beyond most people's capabilities. It appears you have to sell everything you have to pay for it and get down to assets less than 2000 a month and then become a ward of the state in whatever facility they throw you into. All privacy is revoked.
So in terms of wanting longevity, I would not want that type of longevity wasting away in a bed in an elder ward. It would be nice if one could bow out medically (assisted suicide or euthanasia) when that time comes. But the health care system is very greedy and wants you to transfer all your wealth to them in the last stages of your life.
For me, even though it might be crazy, having fun and enjoying life and putting on pounds and having a friends around me who enjoy food is a good option. With continually gaining weight there is bound to be a tipping point eventually where something goes wrong and I keel over, (hopefully with a quick heart attack or stroke) but isn't that a better end than being propped up medically while they literally suck the life out of you SLOWLY and fill their pocketbooks?
1 month
Longevity
Munchies:[quote/]
orderofthegooddeath.com/death-positive-movement/
End of life care is very cold, and how we treat the elderly and infirm is appalling. It's no wonder that most people want nothing to do with it.
We all want a good life, but it shouldn't be lived in fear of death. For death comes for us all.
Sterlingdf:
***** Thanks for the link to Order of the Good Death. I enjoyed the sentiments there.
I am older than most here so I might have a different perspective. The way things are set up, it is difficult to retire and I was so relieved to get past that hurdle, BUT, having accomplished that, I turned around and saw that there was this giant cliff I still had to climb and that is taking care of yourself after you retire.
The cost of Elder Care is astronomical - thousands of dollars a month and completely beyond most people's capabilities. It appears you have to sell everything you have to pay for it and get down to assets less than 2000 a month and then become a ward of the state in whatever facility they throw you into. All privacy is revoked.
So in terms of wanting longevity, I would not want that type of longevity wasting away in a bed in an elder ward. It would be nice if one could bow out medically (assisted suicide or euthanasia) when that time comes. But the health care system is very greedy and wants you to transfer all your wealth to them in the last stages of your life.
For me, even though it might be crazy, having fun and enjoying life and putting on pounds and having a friends around me who enjoy food is a good option. With continually gaining weight there is bound to be a tipping point eventually where something goes wrong and I keel over, (hopefully with a quick heart attack or stroke) but isn't that a better end than being propped up medically while they literally suck the life out of you SLOWLY and fill their pocketbooks?[/quote]
Welcome, welcome.
Aging and gaining is a big gamble. Speaking as someone who has been in the medical industry for about a decade - mostly with the 65+ crowd - I know it's a gamble to let go like that. Sometimes you're fine. Sometimes, you're not. And when you are older, that tipping point is often a slow, painful process.
This is often complicated when the patient goes against medical directives and/or the family refuses to accept the end is near. Both make the end-of-life experience exceedingly more miserable than it needs to be.
I hope that everyone gets to have the life they want. And I hope that when the end comes, it comes the way you desire. But make sure you aren't moving with false conceptions of reality. Because sometimes, when you get what you asked for, it's not what you wanted.
orderofthegooddeath.com/death-positive-movement/
End of life care is very cold, and how we treat the elderly and infirm is appalling. It's no wonder that most people want nothing to do with it.
We all want a good life, but it shouldn't be lived in fear of death. For death comes for us all.
Sterlingdf:
***** Thanks for the link to Order of the Good Death. I enjoyed the sentiments there.
I am older than most here so I might have a different perspective. The way things are set up, it is difficult to retire and I was so relieved to get past that hurdle, BUT, having accomplished that, I turned around and saw that there was this giant cliff I still had to climb and that is taking care of yourself after you retire.
The cost of Elder Care is astronomical - thousands of dollars a month and completely beyond most people's capabilities. It appears you have to sell everything you have to pay for it and get down to assets less than 2000 a month and then become a ward of the state in whatever facility they throw you into. All privacy is revoked.
So in terms of wanting longevity, I would not want that type of longevity wasting away in a bed in an elder ward. It would be nice if one could bow out medically (assisted suicide or euthanasia) when that time comes. But the health care system is very greedy and wants you to transfer all your wealth to them in the last stages of your life.
For me, even though it might be crazy, having fun and enjoying life and putting on pounds and having a friends around me who enjoy food is a good option. With continually gaining weight there is bound to be a tipping point eventually where something goes wrong and I keel over, (hopefully with a quick heart attack or stroke) but isn't that a better end than being propped up medically while they literally suck the life out of you SLOWLY and fill their pocketbooks?[/quote]
Welcome, welcome.
Aging and gaining is a big gamble. Speaking as someone who has been in the medical industry for about a decade - mostly with the 65+ crowd - I know it's a gamble to let go like that. Sometimes you're fine. Sometimes, you're not. And when you are older, that tipping point is often a slow, painful process.
This is often complicated when the patient goes against medical directives and/or the family refuses to accept the end is near. Both make the end-of-life experience exceedingly more miserable than it needs to be.
I hope that everyone gets to have the life they want. And I hope that when the end comes, it comes the way you desire. But make sure you aren't moving with false conceptions of reality. Because sometimes, when you get what you asked for, it's not what you wanted.
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