Morbidly A Beast:
I’m not talking about hypothetical abuse I’m talking about actual reported abuse or like people being abusive for the world to see in a public space.
That’s why I likened it to women talking about being harassed. While it’s different the same actions should be taken.
The example i gave with moderators asking for proof is the most realisitic example i can think of.
I have a suspicion most of the abuse happens in private. That's because a lot of the time the abuse is narcissistic and narcissists are self-aware about not showing their true colors in public.
With public harassment things are very simple because everyone, aside from incels codnems it. No justification, or hell, not even an accusation needs to happen. Except for legal reasons (like so, police can arrest the person who harassed, if that is suposed to happen). Beyond that we'd talk about systemic problems.
I don't know why you bring twitter as an example, people there go through much more abuse, missinformation, etc.
Even offense can be justified. For example if you accuse someone of abuse, and that is a negative quality (which of course it is), that -definitionally- is an insult to his character. The fact that its true doesnt negate that. Why is this importand, though?
Because you *have* to judge if an offense is justified or not. That may be easy if you have first experience of the event that lead to the offense, but its hard if you dont. Most people judge with what feels right, not what is logically right.
All these details are why i think the rules are too shallow btw. They don’t consider all this nuance and its left to the mods' personal judgement ability, which no matter who the moderator is, it will always have room for improvement.
There is more to add too. For example i would really appreciate it if this community cared more for the mental health of its members in order to help them become resilient, rather than take an approach which leads to *only* catering to peoples inabilities, and often those inabilities compromise the social health of a community (leading to people being bitter about each other, etc)
