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Tariff impacts on feederism

Morbidly A Beast:
No because most food products come from America. We’re like the world’s biggest exporter of food.
And most importers are American anyways.

I don’t support Trump at all but I supported the tariffs because it made billionaires who got Trump elected lose money, 500 billion dollars to be exact, and just shows anyone who’s paying attention who’s truly in power. I want representation in my government not lobbyists and tech billionaires.

The issue is that billionaires don't lose money, yeah their stocks tanked but the stock market will recover eventually and they'll be just as rich. And yeah the tariffs are eating into their profits but they're just going to raise their prices. There's a reason why before trump announced tech products won't be affected there was a legitimate fear the switch 2 would cost $600. Tariffs are not a tax on other countries, they are only a tax on American consumers
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Tariff impacts on feederism

there’s enough demand in the American market any importer will pay reluctantly at a loss, the importer could hike prices all they want it would only increase the tax.

there are going to be people who say import taxes are justifying price increases merely to make profit it’s economical.
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Morbidly A Beast:
there’s enough demand in the American market any importer will pay reluctantly at a loss, the importer could hike prices all they want it would only increase the tax.

there are going to be people who say import taxes are justifying price increases merely to make profit it’s economical.


I mean, kudos to you if you can take the hit, but that's not a lot of people. And RIP to the small businesses that are failing specifically because of the tariffs.

We also lack the infrastructure to manufacture all the overseas products here. It will take years, over a decade in some cases. If he wanted to create more American jobs by forcing businesses to operate over here, this is the worst way to do it.

The wealthy will always find ways to stay wealthy. They will probably be fine in the long term concerning the tariffs. But the average American? Not so much.
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Morbidly A Beast:
there’s enough demand in the American market any importer will pay reluctantly at a loss, the importer could hike prices all they want it would only increase the tax.

there are going to be people who say import taxes are justifying price increases merely to make profit it’s economical.

Munchies:
I mean, kudos to you if you can take the hit, but that's not a lot of people. And RIP to the small businesses that are failing specifically because of the tariffs.

We also lack the infrastructure to manufacture all the overseas products here. It will take years, over a decade in some cases. If he wanted to create more American jobs by forcing businesses to operate over here, this is the worst way to do it.

The wealthy will always find ways to stay wealthy. They will probably be fine in the long term concerning the tariffs. But the average American? Not so much.

Also there's tariffs on raw materials too, so even if we could magically build hundreds of brand new factories in 3 months and brought manufacturing back to America, prices are still going to go up. Like say you own a jewelry company and you do all your manufacturing here, what are you supposed to do to get your precious gems and metals? Open a fucking emerald mine in Kansas?? These tariffs are not thought out at all and I don't know why anyone is defending them
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Tariff impacts on feederism

When a firm buys goods from an importer they pay the importer and the importer pays a tax on the income that is what a tariff is.

If an importer were to increase the cost of their goods it would just make them pay more income tax.

I’m not saying I’m not hurt by it I’m saying the price of goods isn’t effected purely out of economic principle.

The tariffs never went into effect. Except for the ones on China. The stock market crashed because Trump was using tariffs as a tool of statecraft and the market was uncertain. Ie people weren’t buying and making deals because they were like “hmm let’s wait the grass might be greener”
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I had a comment all written out then my phone deleted it when I fat fingered a button.

Basically a robust tariff regime is what’s needed to compete and secure our sovereignty as a nation, the problem is Trump pays lip service to that but he doesn’t mean it and uses tariffs as a form of statecraft to get countries to do what he wants.

It might not matter who makes a toliet seat or a t shirt, but what happens when we no longer have the ability to produce warships or tanks? Or the ability to manufacture arms? Or computer chips.
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Throughout the history of capitalism, its dynamic center has shifted. There has never been a succesful attempt to stop this, by any country/region that it was leaving from.

I think the only way in which America could get out of this is by building a huge worker coop sector, which will certainly not move anywhere, but the sociopaths running the country will have none of it.
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Enas:
Throughout the history of capitalism, its dynamic center has shifted. There has never been a succesful attempt to stop this, by any country/region that it was leaving from.

I think the only way in which America could get out of this is by building a huge worker coop sector, which will certainly not move anywhere, but the sociopaths running the country will have none of it.



How will a huge worker coop help us in a service based debt economy?
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Tariff impacts on feederism

Enas:
Throughout the history of capitalism, its dynamic center has shifted. There has never been a succesful attempt to stop this, by any country/region that it was leaving from.

I think the only way in which America could get out of this is by building a huge worker coop sector, which will certainly not move anywhere, but the sociopaths running the country will have none of it.

Morbidly A Beast:
How will a huge worker coop help us in a service based debt economy?


A huge worker coop *sector*.

It would alter the very conditions that led you to a service based debt economy in the first place!

For example instead of corporations abandoning workers in your country (which are then left to rot), you would have democratic control of industry by said workers. And, guess what, they would NEVER fire themselves in order to move the production elsewere. You also dont need to start from scratch, the US already has vast amounts of industrial machinery that is simply gathering rust and dust in the moment.
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Tariff impacts on feederism

Enas:
Throughout the history of capitalism, its dynamic center has shifted. There has never been a succesful attempt to stop this, by any country/region that it was leaving from.

I think the only way in which America could get out of this is by building a huge worker coop sector, which will certainly not move anywhere, but the sociopaths running the country will have none of it.

Morbidly A Beast:
How will a huge worker coop help us in a service based debt economy?

Enas:
A huge worker coop *sector*.

It would alter the very conditions that led you to a service based debt economy in the first place!

For example instead of corporations abandoning workers in your country (which are then left to rot), you would have democratic control of industry by said workers. And, guess what, they would NEVER fire themselves in order to move the production elsewere. You also dont need to start from scratch, the US already has vast amounts of industrial machinery that is simply gathering rust and dust in the moment.


How do service industries function under communism?

Firms moved production oversees because they refused to pay livable wages, if it weren’t economical to off shore manufacturing they would have stayed here which is why I support a tariff regime to fund the government
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