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The message limit is diabolical

Attaker2z:
Anyone agree with this?


membership has its privileges!
4 months

The message limit is diabolical

Attaker2z:
Anyone agree with this?


I don't really be messaging people like that. But when I did, 5 messages felt limiting.
4 months

The message limit is diabolical

Attaker2z:
Anyone agree with this?


Ha ha! I’m not a fan of it either. But this is why I try to be strategic about messaging people on here. smiley
4 months

The message limit is diabolical

Attaker2z:
Anyone agree with this?

Canuck:
membership has its privileges!


True in some cases but with a site that needs a lot of fixing up premium is not worth it. At least to me. Now if everything was more modern, kept up to date, and maintained regularly I think it's worth it.
The limit is pretty outdated. This is why you find the scammers, catfishers, and scam center workers trying to go off site to communicate.
4 months

The message limit is diabolical

Attaker2z:
Anyone agree with this?

Canuck:
membership has its privileges!

Beachside Farmer:
True in some cases but with a site that needs a lot of fixing up premium is not worth it. At least to me. Now if everything was more modern, kept up to date, and maintained regularly I think it's worth it.
The limit is pretty outdated. This is why you find the scammers, catfishers, and scam center workers trying to go off site to communicate.


it's only $12 for a month of unlimited messages. it's not like you're renting an apartment or buying a car that need work!

just saying... if people complain about the limitations, there's a very simple answer. i'm not complaining. i think what this site offers for free is fantastic - the best on the web!
4 months

The message limit is diabolical

Lol "only 12 a month" for only free messages man that's so much to ask
4 months

The message limit is diabolical

Urchie:
Lol "only 12 a month" for only free messages man that's so much to ask


It might have been $12, once upon a time, but I can't remember when.

I also remember a time when there were three packages of $9.99/mo. each for either unlimited views of content premium or otherwise (the content package), unlimited messages in a social package, and there was a "dating package" that was similar. Or it was $19.99/mo. for everything.

The dating package didn't make sense so it was combined into the social package. So there was a time you could save 1 cent a month if you got both packages separately, because 2 x $9.99 = $19.98.

Now it's $8.25 for either unlimited messages, *or* unlimited content views, or $16.50/mo. for both.

I do agree it's a little frustrating, and at times I've wondered if the restrictions could be changed somehow. Now this is just high level spitballing, and I haven't really thought this through too much.

For example, unlimited message views, but replies and sending messages are still limited. This single change alone would solve a lot of complaints about short or worse, terrible messages and might encourage more thoughtful messages.

Another idea might be to allow free members to always send unlimited messages and replies to premium members. This change alone might motivate more subscriptions.

Now, I know some may wish there was no subscription at all, but that isn't economically feasible. Most free online services receive their funding through alternative means, such as advertising revenue and/or selling of data.

Being an adult-themed web site, FF is basically locked out of advertising revenue, since advertisers often don't want to be advertised in such places. I know, I know, perhaps in a parallel universe there would be ads about food that emphasize how many calories it has, and advertise weight gain potential. But that's not the world we live in.

Selling of data for any purpose, whether as aggregate marketing data or something more nefarious, is not something FF has ever done, even prior to the GDPR.

So, neither of these are options. I do remember when hiccupx basically offered this site totally for free, but it very quickly became time consuming, and I have no doubt the hosting bill increased substantially. It wasn't a realistic option to keep offering it for free; it had to start making some money.

I get it. I don't really talk about this much, but I run an online service free for users and no advertising. I'm about $70/mo. out of pocket every month and I've done this for more than a decade. But, it doesn't require massive amounts of time. If I had to spend hundreds of dollars or more, and/or spend 20+ hours a week every single week on administrative, maintenance, and development tasks for it, this simply wouldn't be feasible.

Given the overall situation, I think the owner has managed to strike a pretty good balance, and has done so for more than 20 years.
4 months

The message limit is diabolical

Urchie:
Lol "only 12 a month" for only free messages man that's so much to ask

ILuvChubbyChix:
It might have been $12, once upon a time, but I can't remember when.

I also remember a time when there were three packages of $9.99/mo. each for either unlimited views of content premium or otherwise (the content package), unlimited messages in a social package, and there was a "dating package" that was similar. Or it was $19.99/mo. for everything.

The dating package didn't make sense so it was combined into the social package. So there was a time you could save 1 cent a month if you got both packages separately, because 2 x $9.99 = $19.98.

Now it's $8.25 for either unlimited messages, *or* unlimited content views, or $16.50/mo. for both.

I do agree it's a little frustrating, and at times I've wondered if the restrictions could be changed somehow. Now this is just high level spitballing, and I haven't really thought this through too much.

For example, unlimited message views, but replies and sending messages are still limited. This single change alone would solve a lot of complaints about short or worse, terrible messages and might encourage more thoughtful messages.

Another idea might be to allow free members to always send unlimited messages and replies to premium members. This change alone might motivate more subscriptions.

Now, I know some may wish there was no subscription at all, but that isn't economically feasible. Most free online services receive their funding through alternative means, such as advertising revenue and/or selling of data.

Being an adult-themed web site, FF is basically locked out of advertising revenue, since advertisers often don't want to be advertised in such places. I know, I know, perhaps in a parallel universe there would be ads about food that emphasize how many calories it has, and advertise weight gain potential. But that's not the world we live in.

Selling of data for any purpose, whether as aggregate marketing data or something more nefarious, is not something FF has ever done, even prior to the GDPR.

So, neither of these are options. I do remember when hiccupx basically offered this site totally for free, but it very quickly became time consuming, and I have no doubt the hosting bill increased substantially. It wasn't a realistic option to keep offering it for free; it had to start making some money.

I get it. I don't really talk about this much, but I run an online service free for users and no advertising. I'm about $70/mo. out of pocket every month and I've done this for more than a decade. But, it doesn't require massive amounts of time. If I had to spend hundreds of dollars or more, and/or spend 20+ hours a week every single week on administrative, maintenance, and development tasks for it, this simply wouldn't be feasible.

Given the overall situation, I think the owner has managed to strike a pretty good balance, and has done so for more than 20 years.


I am very nosy. What is the free service?
4 months

The message limit is diabolical

Munchies:
I am very nosy. What is the free service?


I replied in a PM.
4 months

The message limit is diabolical

Hi all,

I just wanted to clarify something that I don't think has been addressed yet.

The 5 message limit refers to 5 message threads, not 5 individual messages. This means you can start conversations with up to 5 different people within a 24 hour period and once a thread is started, you're free to message back and forth with that person as much as you'd like within that time frame.

Since the limit works on a rolling 24 hour basis, it doesn’t reset at midnight instead, the 24 hours count from the time you first sent the message. To help you keep track of which messages are active, look for the small 'eye' icon next to each message thread. This indicates which conversations are currently active.

You can message as many users as you like to initiate a conversation / thread. But there is a general cap to prevent spam (just in case you're super active!), but for most users, it won’t be an issue. The key is to be selective about who you choose to message.

Here are a few tips from me to make the most of your messages:

* Prioritize users who are online (look for the green circle). You're more likely to get a quick reply and start a real conversation.

* Engage publicly first and join in on forum posts, shouts, or chats before going private. You can also leave a friendly comment on someone’s profile or content to show interest before messaging.

* Read profiles carefully. Reach out to people who share similar interests and seem like a good match, rather than sending messages randomly.

* Make your message titles count. A thoughtful title can encourage someone to open and respond.


Hope that helps!
c00kie
FF Team
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