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So,
I was browsing for some gainer content and ended up stumbling upon a video by this guy — @EsotericFatness. At first glance, it might sound a bit cuckoo bananas, but honestly… there is something there worth thinking about.
(I’ll try to summarize, but I’m not great at recalling everything exactly, so if this interests you, I really recommend watching the video.)
The video is called “The Future of Gaining”. He starts by talking about his time in the community and then moves on to some broader ideas, gradually going deeper into them.
One of the main points he brings up is the idea of starting a kind of “revolution” through gaining. By that, he means that if fatness became more widespread and normalized, society might eventually stop focusing exclusively on how to lose weight and instead start researching how to live well and stay healthy while being fat — in a way comparable to how a fit person is considered healthy.
This is just one of the points in the 13-minute video, but it really spoke to me.
Adding some of my own thoughts: yes, this idea is definitely utopian. But at the same time, I don’t think it’s impossible. I genuinely believe that the lives of fat people — especially those who want to stay fat or actively want to get fat — would be significantly better and healthier if society invested in research in favor of fatness, instead of putting so much effort into things like Ozempic and other weight-loss–focused solutions.
Of course, I’m aware there are serious concerns around health risks and the fetishization of being unhealthy. That said, I’m sure many fat people (or people who desire to be fat) would love to live in a world where heart attacks wouldn’t be an immediate concern at 300 or even 400 pounds — or where, at the very least, those risks were delayed and minimized.
A big part of fatphobia is often justified using “health” as an excuse. If the window of what’s considered “healthy” at higher weights were expanded, I think that excuse would lose a lot of its power.
I tend to forget to include everything I want to say, so I’ll stop here.
The main point of this post is simply to hear other people’s opinions about the ideas this guy brings to the table. For me, there’s definitely some juice in this fruit.

(I also dont know how to use the URL feature here, so here is the raw link)

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I think that in the very long run, this guy is on to something.

Eventually, probably after many wars and revolutions, enough of humanity will be wealthy enough that they will have the money to invest in their more esoteric wants, not just their needs or their most obvious wants. They will realize that fat is erotic, and even if they don't have to be fat, even if they can just Ozempic themselves back to normal, at least some of them will feel a desire not to. And the more people live out that desire, the more money will flow into bariatric research.

This might not happen for hundreds of years. I'd be surprised if anyone here would be alive to see it, because the productive forces are nowhere near advanced enough to make it happen. But it seems inevitable, given the historical forces involved.

A shame, but I agree that it might take a very long time before something really impactful happens. I don’t really expect to see a full shift like that in our lifetime either.
Still, I think that with some work from the community as a whole, it would be possible to make at least some progress toward something good and meaningful. It doesn’t have to be a full revolution. Even smaller steps already matter.
I also think research doesn’t necessarily have to be framed in an obvious “gainer” way to exist. There are socially acceptable reasons and angles for it, so it wouldn’t be instantly dismissed or taken down. Things like quality of life, harm reduction, or long-term health at higher weights.
And when you think about it, the kind of research and methods used to develop drugs like Ozempic... That same knowledge could, in theory, work in favor of this kind of future as well, instead of being used only for weight loss.
So yeah, this utopian gainer future might be far away, but I don’t think that means nothing can improve considerably faster. With all the gainer people around the world, the internet, and more open discussion about wanting a safer way to live like this, I do believe it’s possible to slowly get closer to something better.

Fascinating share… thought maybe this would help if more people became more open with having a preference towards bigger people then maybe it might be more possible to get into a place where it’s more respectful. Rather than be in the centre of criticism and feel like they’re part of the problem.