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Understanding the neurological underpinnings of our kinks

For all of Kita's searching over the past 18 years, she has been unable to find real, definitive, conclusive data about... most kinks. Academia is mostly uninterested. It's not that nothing exists as far as data, just not anywhere near enough for proper meta analysis, nor any analysis worth a damn, in our opinion.

If we had to take a stab, survival and reproduction instincts are really deeply ingrained in all mammals; and as particularly social ones, acts that are pro-social like sharing food or being vulnerable with one another often can be related to attraction. Anti-social behaviours seen as taboo can cross disgust thresholds that are closely related to brain structures involved in determining sexual attraction or stimulation.

All this is to say that feeding being pro-social, and being fat having social consequences, probably influences a lot of the early stimulation of neural pathways related to attraction/sex; and these pathways are like grooves in a record, getting deeper as they are accessed and dominating more of the energy transference in that region.
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Understanding the neurological underpinnings of our kinks

I think for many of us who appreciate the fuller female form it’s the feeling of being comforted and supported. We were pressed to soft, fleshy bosoms as babies and the feeling just never goes away.
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Understanding the neurological underpinnings of our kinks

Yeah, I have absolutely looked for information on this quite a lot but any research into feedism that I’ve been able to find has been shallow at best, and insulting at worst especially from the ideas of where it comes from. I would love to know more about where this part of myself comes from but there doesn’t seem to be much out there.

As for the idea of why people with this kink can have trouble feeling honest sexually I have a bit of an idea. I believe that because the inherent basis of this kink comes from hedonism that we have seen beyond the veil of societal expectations and found that indulgence and seeking pleasure are more rewarding than following some arbitrary measurement of what we measure our worth as “enough” is. It’s a word that loses it’s meaning when you are constantly walking that line and seeing if you can push it further. It’s a fetish that by it’s very nature encourages you to see a world full of so much beautiful, tasty, and soft things that can be yours which so much of the world actively discourages you from. Therefore it can be hard to connect with people too caught up in the expectations of the world when you have seen what else is out there.
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Understanding the neurological underpinnings of our kinks

In our experience, feederism and neurodivergence almost overlap 1:1. But Kita's selection is biased, as being into hard science and video games means almost everyone she meets is a bit neurospicy.
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Understanding the neurological underpinnings of our kinks

It's not a study. Nor do we have the data publically accessible. We just keep tabs on the community we personally run. It isn't feederism related, but because Kita runs it she has had her parade of (ex-)girlfriends through it.

Sorry to disappoint.
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Understanding the neurological underpinnings of our kinks

Agreed! It would *invaluable* to kink spaces to have some good data, especially for encouraging safe and best practices.

Just having more hard info on how to gain would be awesome. Developing medicine to help us be safer in kink practice would be a boon, too.
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Understanding the neurological underpinnings of our kinks

Kbfawksy13:
For all of Kita's searching over the past 18 years, she has been unable to find real, definitive, conclusive data about... most kinks. Academia is mostly uninterested. It's not that nothing exists as far as data, just not anywhere near enough for proper meta analysis, nor any analysis worth a damn, in our opinion.

If we had to take a stab, survival and reproduction instincts are really deeply ingrained in all mammals; and as particularly social ones, acts that are pro-social like sharing food or being vulnerable with one another often can be related to attraction. Anti-social behaviours seen as taboo can cross disgust thresholds that are closely related to brain structures involved in determining sexual attraction or stimulation.

All this is to say that feeding being pro-social, and being fat having social consequences, probably influences a lot of the early stimulation of neural pathways related to attraction/sex; and these pathways are like grooves in a record, getting deeper as they are accessed and dominating more of the energy transference in that region.


Apologies if I just missed something but what is Kita? I did a quick search and didn’t find anything by that name or acronym.

For what it’s worth, I tend to think, based on my own experience of also having pre-sexual leanings toward this stuff from early memory, that kink or sexuality in general is much less rational than what you describe here. I think there are reproductive instincts, but I don’t see the connection between kinky or fetishistic desire and this kind of instinct. It’s hard to explain what I mean, so it might not be worth much in this convo, but I feel like Freud’s idea of “polymorphous perversity,” despite whatever negative connotations come with the word “perverse,” is much more true to my experience as a child than any other theories I’ve heard. I remember feeling odd sensations around fat or pregnant people, around pop culture images of people shrinking, being an animal like a cat or mouse, or around ideas of other odd body transformations (Pinocchio’s nose for instance) before it solidified later with big bodies. It feels like it could have gone any of those directions and many of them have nothing to do with a rationalization of reproductive instinct. And I felt my desires change as I acquired more images to support them like Willy wonka and violet beauregard, or any of the other pop culture examples we can often commonly list.

I also feel like I read something similar in early psychological/philosophical writings like those of William James when he writes about religious experience. I’m not comparing sexuality with those kinds of experiences except that he writes something along the lines of “it’s not rationality that is the deep thing in us, it is what comes after when we have to integrate our experiences”. (Apologies for my paraphrase. All that to say, I feel deeply that our subconscious is much more of a soup of irrational desire than it is anything to do with making sure our genes survive, and while there certainly must be some neurological correlation that goes with this, but I’m suspicious of rational, evolutionary explanations.
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Understanding the neurological underpinnings of our kinks

Kbfawksy13:
It's not a study. Nor do we have the data publically accessible. We just keep tabs on the community we personally run. It isn't feederism related, but because Kita runs it she has had her parade of (ex-)girlfriends through it.

Sorry to disappoint.


Okay, after reading your profile I understand about Kita now, my mistake!
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Understanding the neurological underpinnings of our kinks

Torchcacti:
It’s hard to explain what I mean, so it might not be worth much in this convo, but I feel like Freud’s idea of “polymorphous perversity,” despite whatever negative connotations come with the word “perverse,” is much more true to my experience as a child than any other theories I’ve heard.


Freud was ultimately not a reliable source of info for anything about how the mind functions, and almost all of his work has been discredited multiple times over throughout the replicability crisis.

Evolution is an a-rational process that produces emergences in an unguided manner. Rationality is a thing we use as a tool to unravel causal connections, but it is far from the only tool. Instincts are, by their very nature, not rational because they evolved without regard to rationality. Kita thinks you have mistaken an explanation of causality that uses rationality as a tool to determine the chain for the processes being rational themselves.

That said, since we are emergent from natural, evolutionary processes, and Kita herself has no spiritual or religious beliefs, she can find no causal relationship between kink and its subjects *but* evolutionary processes. Like how our digestive systems evolved, so did our brains. And they did so without regards to our tools of understanding that would come far later.

(Minor edit for formatting error and typo.)
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Understanding the neurological underpinnings of our kinks

Torchcacti:
It’s hard to explain what I mean, so it might not be worth much in this convo, but I feel like Freud’s idea of “polymorphous perversity,” despite whatever negative connotations come with the word “perverse,” is much more true to my experience as a child than any other theories I’ve heard.

Kbfawksy13:
Freud was ultimately not a reliable source of info for anything about how the mind functions, and almost all of his work has been discredited multiple times over throughout the replicability crisis.

Evolution is an a-rational process that produces emergences in an unguided manner. Rationality is a thing we use as a tool to unravel causal connections, but it is far from the only tool. Instincts are, by their very nature, not rational because they evolved without regard to rationality. Kita thinks you have mistaken an explanation of causality that uses rationality as a tool to determine the chain for the processes being rational themselves.

That said, since we are emergent from natural, evolutionary processes, and Kita herself has no spiritual or religious beliefs, she can find no causal relationship between kink and its subjects *but* evolutionary processes. Like how our digestive systems evolved, so did our brains. And they did so without regards to our tools of understanding that would come far later.

(Minor edit for formatting error and typo.)


Ok cool.
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