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Kbfawksy13   United States
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Harleen Zaftig:
It's interesting to hear that you don't think that teenage rebellion isn't a systemic feature of human development. Do you have sources for this assertion? I mean, since you asked Me for Mine...


Just to clarify, we said we do not think it exists, not that we think it doesn't exist. The difference is that being unconvinced of a proposition (we do not think it exists) is different from believing the opposite claim. (we think it does not exist.)

What you did here was called "shifting the burden of proof." You were asked to substantiate your claim, but instead of doing so you chose to shift the burden on us as if we are making the opposite claim.

We are not convinced this exists. We do not need a reason to be unconvinced. This isn't a reason, but to put it more simply: We have not heard an argument or seen data-driven analysis that substantiates the claim that it exists. Nor did you provide one. So we remain unconvinced.
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Sharing an opinion on feederism engagement in some feedees specifically

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Thewinding   United States
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Harleen Zaftig:
It's interesting to hear that you don't think that teenage rebellion isn't a systemic feature of human development. Do you have sources for this assertion? I mean, since you asked Me for Mine...

Kbfawksy13:
Just to clarify, we said we do not think it exists, not that we think it doesn't exist. The difference is that being unconvinced of a proposition (we do not think it exists) is different from believing the opposite claim. (we think it does not exist.)

What you did here was called "shifting the burden of proof." You were asked to substantiate your claim, but instead of doing so you chose to shift the burden on us as if we are making the opposite claim.

We are not convinced this exists. We do not need a reason to be unconvinced. This isn't a reason, but to put it more simply: We have not heard an argument or seen data-driven analysis that substantiates the claim that it exists. Nor did you provide one. So we remain unconvinced.


This is not productive. OP started the first post with "I've noticed something" and proceeded to request input from others. Your subsequent request boils down to "Prove to me that you noticed it." You're starting your part of the conversation in bad faith, which leaves nowhere to go.
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Sharing an opinion on feederism engagement in some feedees specifically

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BigBallBellyGirl   United States
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BigBallBellyGirl:
I think there certainly is a rebellious element in adopting an appearance incongruous with typical beauty standards. I think it's also brave to define beauty for yourself, rather than allowing society to dictate ideals.

That said, I definitely didn't get fat as an act of rebellion. I crossed over from being chubby to being properly obese in first grade, and though my mother was not happy, my hope wasn't to spite her. I just liked being plump, I had a large tummy, and when other kids commented it was getting bigger. I recall feeling motivated to grow even more. By the summer after third grade, I was fattening up by all means possible: snacking at friends house's, stashing treats in my bedroom, etc., and I was pleased with my progress. I weighed myself everyday and used a seamstress tape to measure my belly, which hit 40 inches in fourth grade. By high school, I was wearing a size 28 in US women's clothing. Family, friend's parents, even a couple of teacher's would suggest weight loss tactics, but these comments only made me want to grow more. This wasn't rebellion-- it was just affirmation that my efforts to be obese were paying off. I started stretching my stomach with liquid bloats so I could eat more and more. By graduation, the largest graduation gown I could order was so tight I couldn't zip it. Instead of feeling motivation to lose weight, I was very proud to cross the state with a fat gut bulging out of my gown.

Harleen Zaftig:
I *love* all of this for you.

I feel like - even though I'm sure it came with its own struggles - it was very different than My own experience.


Completely understand this, and there are so many factors that make make everyone's journey different! I certainly can see gaining and becoming obese as an act of rebellion, particularly in oppressive, emotionally harmful households.

And I absolutely rebelled, in many ways. I don't think my weight was a manifestation of that... But honestly, maybe I'm wrong about that too. The human brain is complex.
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