Feedback and suggestions

20 chapter limit

Ffancy:
Reading and writing stories has always been THE primary reason I come to FF. And over the years I've seen many good writers come and go, and their stories disappear into the ether. Always thought that staying and keeping my stories available was good for the site. Apparently not, because now I'm getting hit with the limiter and told I have not contributed enough.


Yeah this breaks my heart. I didn't even realize that contributors would not only be monetized without gain or permission, but also be subject to the same limitation to enjoy a community that they help build. Like, are you f**king kidding me right now FF???

Thank you for sharing your stories for so long. It's appreciated by the users even if not by the site.
1 day

20 chapter limit

Ffancy:
Reading and writing stories has always been THE primary reason I come to FF. And over the years I've seen many good writers come and go, and their stories disappear into the ether. Always thought that staying and keeping my stories available was good for the site. Apparently not, because now I'm getting hit with the limiter and told I have not contributed enough.


Hey Ffancy,

I see you've contributed 30 stories over 16 years, and that's a real and meaningful benefit to this community which is genuinely appreciated. It's authors like you are a core reason why readers come here.

Your frustration makes sense to me. You've been giving something to this platform for a long time, and it's fair to feel like that should count for something when a limit like this lands in your lap.

I'm honestly taking this kind of feedback seriously, because the question of how we properly recognise long-term authors is one I want to get right. I can't make promises here in the forum, but this is the kind of conversation that will shape how I think about what contributor recognition going forward.

If you're open to it, I'd love to continue this conversation with you more directly. Please reach out in the PMs.

Hiccupx
23 hours

20 chapter limit

Hiccupx:
Hey, thank you sincerely for your 15 years with us — that kind of loyalty genuinely means a lot.

The writers creating those hundreds of chapters you've enjoyed over the years are still here, still writing, and helping to keep the lights on for this platform.

The 20-chapter daily limit isn't about restricting casual readers or discouraging people from discovering new stories — it's a way to make sure the platform can keep existing for the next 15 years, not just the last 15. Free access remains available to the overwhelming majority of users.

We genuinely hope you'll stick around, but we understand if you need to take a break. The door is always open.

Belyn:
One question-- if this is really about the writers who are " keeping the lights on" then are the ones who aren't monetized getting any of this new cash flow you're charging us? Were they asked permission to have their writing used " to keep the lights on"

If the answer is no, then I think we both understand that some people are just sharing their kink and craft for the pleasure of it. Because not everything is about money. Sometimes it's just about community. And if this is no longer a place where that can happen, then I think it is only just for people to flee to places where they can engage with kink without capitalistic intent.

I repeat-- the fact that there are authors sharing work for free without them monetizing it means that it is unethical for you to be charging money to continue reading their stories. (Or I'm sorry, limiting how one can enjoy and engage with stories.)

And mentioning that it's just 10 to 15% of us that you're targeting? Doesn't really make me feel better ngl...

I appreciate the website. I can no longer support it.


This is a good point and thank you for puttingit that way. Helped click things for me!

As a free user of everything possible, I fully intend to keep putting up stories and never monetizing for my fellow man. But maybe some of my readers could get hit anyway?

Don't love the idea that people have a limit on reading my stuff when its intentionally free (as a counter protest to monetization), or else they pay. Also like in a community that lives for more, pretty tactical (psychological?) to set limits. Now my fellow poors would just live within the limit. Just like chat messages and picture views. But arguably it has become more costly to be here, especially if your into it down bad. We need those guys.

I've been here over a decade, and these limits dont hit me really. I dabble, but I'm not discovering my kink identity. That being said, isn't that the boat new users come in on. Figuring out what they like. Investigating that itch that brought them to the website in the first place. Seems like not too much room or patience to explore this site if everything is tracked. Might be discouraging and honestly annoying to stay. Could it explain the uptick in the views on my profile I see in a week from new users who delete their accounts by the time I see a notification. Idk.

I get keeping the place running, but cutting out the opportunities to engage literally freely, feels off, abd on reading at that. Times like these are not ones for choosing reading kink over rent.

Sticking around, because a bonfires a bonfire though.
23 hours

20 chapter limit

I want to answer the fairness question directly, because you've raised a real one.

The limit isn't a charge to read any particular author's story. It's a cap on overall use of the platform — the hosting, indexing, moderation and serving that costs us money to run no matter how a story got here. Free stories are still free; what's metered is how much of the service a reader uses in a day. For authors who do want to earn, our Earners program pays commission, with consent, on subscriptions — so nobody's work is ever sold out from under them.

A few honest things about why it works this way: we can't run advertising given the nature of our content, and unlike a donation-funded non-profit we have staff and authors we actually pay. So the money has to come from somewhere, and we'd rather it come from heavy consumption of the service than from putting individual free stories behind a paywall — which we haven't done and won't.

The overwhelming majority of readers never reach the limit, and it doesn't touch the experience of writing here or having your work read. But I hear the deeper point — that contributors should feel recognised, not metered — and that's the part I'm genuinely looking at.
19 hours

20 chapter limit

For authors who do want to earn, our Earners program pays commission, with consent, on subscriptions — so nobody's work is ever sold out from under them.

The overwhelming majority of readers never reach the limit, and it doesn't touch the experience of writing here or having your work read.


...and for writers who do not want to earn? For authors who are kind and share their stories for free? They are still (unwittingly!!!) getting their stories used as carrots to entice people into a money scheme. It's really sad as TCC says when so much of clicking around this website is exploring your kink and how you feel. This used to be a space where that could happen-- now it seems not.

Again-- please respect the authors intent. If they don't choose to be in the earners program, their original content should not be used to fund your site by capping engagement. (Especially when you say it's to pay the commissioned! writers OY VEY). Way to rob peter to pay Paul there. Shows who you really value and it ain't the people who have been writing free stories for 16 years like ffancy.

And again with the "majority reader experience." These 10-15 are the dedicated readers who stick around and you're punishing us??? Counter, 10-15% of readers should get off this website because we may not be 85% but our enjoyment of the site matters and clearly our depth of enjoyment is being targeted for monetary gain.

I do appreciate how all salient points myself and other users have brought up in terms of free kink exploration and free (uncapped! Unrestricted!) community have gone ignored.

I'll be indexing my favorite stories but after that I am out. I think over time the 10-15% will shrink and that's sad, because this was once a good, safe website (something something for a brief shining moment we had Camelot). But I refuse to engage further with a website that didn't consider free writers getting restricted on their reading in the launch and so despises 10-15% of readers that they see our kink enjoyment only as a money bank. (And not a sexy piggy one.)
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