Fat experiences

do you know at what time stamp he starts talking about feederism, the podcast is 2 hours long
update:
Found it:

No matter how the fetish is explained, the vast majority of people will find it strange and perverted. That's just how it is. If I wasn't into this, I could imagine how flat-out disgusted I would be if a friend/relative told me this turned them on. That's why most on this forum keep this secret irl

The problem is the only facet that gets any attention from mainstream media is the predatory/ abusive aspect of feederism, (which I know exists) but still is in noway representative of this community, but nobody cares to show the consensual aspect where feedees actually want to gain weight and feeders and not just creeps who want to prey on loveless fat people.