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Empathy for your fellow feedists

Happy new year all! I wasn't quite sure where to post this, but I'm curious what the FF community thinks about changes in the feedism community generally over the years. Copied from my feedism blog here: thefeedbackblog.tumblr.com

Intro:

Hang around the feedism community for long enough, and you will inevitably see a melodramatic post from someone yearning for “the good old days of the feedism community”. A time when there was less drama. When interactions were less transactional. When people were generally happier, nicer, and more excited to see fat loving weirdos like themselves on the internet. These posts generally elicit strong responses, ranging from nostalgic agreement to wholehearted dissent, likening said comments to boomers waxing on about America in the 50’s and 60’s. It’s impossible to ignore the divides these comments expose within our community - divides we really can’t afford given the diminutive stature of our kinky safe space. We’re a small group - with similar wants, needs, and desires - and in my humble opinion, we should stick together. In this post, I’m going to try and explain what “the good old days” actually were, and how it was a one-time thing that can’t ever be replicated. I’ll also touch on bigger socioeconomic factors that occurred after the good old days, and how they drove some of the changes we’ve seen in the online community. In the end, what I’m trying to encourage is empathy for each other. Continued here: tumblr.com/thefeedbackblog/702483327131729920/empathy-for-your-fellow-feedists
1 year

Empathy for your fellow feedists

Nameistoolon: We’re a small group - with similar wants, needs, and desires - and in my humble opinion, we should stick together.

SlothDemon:
Hard disagree. I wanna see a good clean fight within this heavy-set community, resulting in toppled skyscrapers, massive tsunamis, and millions of panicked, yet very confused Tokyoites.

Get ready to rumble.


You really don't want that. I've been involved in my fair share of discourse. Plus I've eviscerated quite a few creeps in my inbox and in chat. I don't block people. I make them run for the hills.

And all of that said, I'd rather just chat with my fellow kinksters than be involved in mess. Much more peaceful that way.
1 year

Empathy for your fellow feedists

😂 Maybe we're at the point where a good old fashioned throw-down would be the most cathartic solution. Although for the sake of the civilians and skyscrapers, some in-person discourse over dinner could be for the best.

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I feel like half of our issues are caused by an increasingly online-only community. It's one of the main reasons I missed in-person meetups over the pandemic... remove the shelter of anonymity for the jerks, and the community feels much more like a real community.

For the inevitable issues that can't be sorted with conversation, there are always milkshake drinking contests to decide the victor...
1 year

Empathy for your fellow feedists

Nameistoolon:
😂 Maybe we're at the point where a good old fashioned throw-down would be the most cathartic solution. Although for the sake of the civilians and skyscrapers, some in-person discourse over dinner could be for the best.

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I feel like half of our issues are caused by an increasingly online-only community. It's one of the main reasons I missed in-person meetups over the pandemic... remove the shelter of anonymity for the jerks, and the community feels much more like a real community.

For the inevitable issues that can't be sorted with conversation, there are always milkshake drinking contests to decide the victor...


The problems in this community are not unique this community. Rather, they are endemic to society as a whole.

I fully believe most people in this community are decent people. They aren't perfect (no one is), but they try to treat people the way they want to be treated. Those who are not have biases that they have not critically examined.

To be clear, there isn't any one particular group that's like this. Yes there are some groups who are more ... problematic than others. But anyone can fall prey to this. I have personally encountered a diverse flavor of prejudice actions from a diverse group of people. And when called out on their actions - even respectfully or kindly - double down on things.

No one likes being wrong. And no one likes to know that their worldview on something is flawed. So, for a lot of people, their knee-jerk reaction is to reject that very idea. I can't fault people too much for that. I think most people are like that to some degree. But the problem comes when people refuse to examine things critically - even when it is in their best interests to do so.

All that said, I do have faith that as the world begins to evaluate and reform their world view, things will get better.
1 year

Empathy for your fellow feedists

Nameistoolon:
😂 Maybe we're at the point where a good old fashioned throw-down would be the most cathartic solution. Although for the sake of the civilians and skyscrapers, some in-person discourse over dinner could be for the best.

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I feel like half of our issues are caused by an increasingly online-only community. It's one of the main reasons I missed in-person meetups over the pandemic... remove the shelter of anonymity for the jerks, and the community feels much more like a real community.

For the inevitable issues that can't be sorted with conversation, there are always milkshake drinking contests to decide the victor...

Munchies:
The problems in this community are not unique this community. Rather, they are endemic to society as a whole.

I fully believe most people in this community are decent people. They aren't perfect (no one is), but they try to treat people the way they want to be treated. Those who are not have biases that they have not critically examined.

To be clear, there isn't any one particular group that's like this. Yes there are some groups who are more ... problematic than others. But anyone can fall prey to this. I have personally encountered a diverse flavor of prejudice actions from a diverse group of people. And when called out on their actions - even respectfully or kindly - double down on things.

No one likes being wrong. And no one likes to know that their worldview on something is flawed. So, for a lot of people, their knee-jerk reaction is to reject that very idea. I can't fault people too much for that. I think most people are like that to some degree. But the problem comes when people refuse to examine things critically - even when it is in their best interests to do so.

All that said, I do have faith that as the world begins to evaluate and reform their world view, things will get better.


Well probably besides me as I like my views challenged. You can't make improvements without criticism. I do agree with your take.
1 year

Empathy for your fellow feedists

Nameistoolon:
😂 Maybe we're at the point where a good old fashioned throw-down would be the most cathartic solution. Although for the sake of the civilians and skyscrapers, some in-person discourse over dinner could be for the best.

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I feel like half of our issues are caused by an increasingly online-only community. It's one of the main reasons I missed in-person meetups over the pandemic... remove the shelter of anonymity for the jerks, and the community feels much more like a real community.

For the inevitable issues that can't be sorted with conversation, there are always milkshake drinking contests to decide the victor...

Munchies:
The problems in this community are not unique this community. Rather, they are endemic to society as a whole.

I fully believe most people in this community are decent people. They aren't perfect (no one is), but they try to treat people the way they want to be treated. Those who are not have biases that they have not critically examined.

To be clear, there isn't any one particular group that's like this. Yes there are some groups who are more ... problematic than others. But anyone can fall prey to this. I have personally encountered a diverse flavor of prejudice actions from a diverse group of people. And when called out on their actions - even respectfully or kindly - double down on things.

No one likes being wrong. And no one likes to know that their worldview on something is flawed. So, for a lot of people, their knee-jerk reaction is to reject that very idea. I can't fault people too much for that. I think most people are like that to some degree. But the problem comes when people refuse to examine things critically - even when it is in their best interests to do so.

All that said, I do have faith that as the world begins to evaluate and reform their world view, things will get better.


Love this… extremely well said. I hope you don’t mind if I quote some of your thoughts the next time I need to break bread with relatives whom I typically disagree with politically.

I guess my (probably naive) hope was that the solidarity we have as members of a niche kink community would help overcome the endemic issues that society faces as a whole. It’s painful to see the same issues pop up here as I see on Facebook and Twitter. Everything you mentioned… discrimination, bias, doubling down, etc. It hurts worse when it comes from your friends, family, and kink community. You just want to scream “we’re better than this!” At the end of the day, I think it comes down to being the change you want to see, and instead of lamenting about the state of things, participating and actively making it better.
1 year

Empathy for your fellow feedists

So I actually READ the article.

TLDR For those that don't want to:
First they mention the site Feabie pretty much for the change. It was the "fat" facebook they said

Then they mention the pandemic because "isolation" made people give into desires.

Then they bring in politics such as Trump hating fat people and other minority groups.

Inflation, now food is expensive.

Social media doxxed safe feedism spaces.

They said the communities locally are small so people are spicy about it.

To change it, the author suggests
- PAY FOR YOUR FEEDEE.
- If you are a person wanting a feedee, ask to see their notifications. (ROFL mine are fucking empty so you'll be depressed. Most of us will be HAPPY to show you we are ignored)
- Be authentically nice to new people.
- Forgive your past feedist people if you had any?
- Dont force gaining on everyone.

It had no real insight on what it was like in the past nor what it is like now.
1 year

Empathy for your fellow feedists

Spike:
So I actually READ the article.

TLDR For those that don't want to:
First they mention the site Feabie pretty much for the change. It was the "fat" facebook they said

Then they mention the pandemic because "isolation" made people give into desires.

Then they bring in politics such as Trump hating fat people and other minority groups.

Inflation, now food is expensive.

Social media doxxed safe feedism spaces.

They said the communities locally are small so people are spicy about it.

To change it, the author suggests
- PAY FOR YOUR FEEDEE.
- If you are a person wanting a feedee, ask to see their notifications. (ROFL mine are fucking empty so you'll be depressed. Most of us will be HAPPY to show you we are ignored)
- Be authentically nice to new people.
- Forgive your past feedist people if you had any?
- Dont force gaining on everyone.

It had no real insight on what it was like in the past nor what it is like now.


Of course it wont have any real insight. It's a tumblr post. And saying fat people are a minority group is funny since the USA has an obesity rate of around 40%. Around 5% are medically considered underweight to put in in perspective.
1 year

Empathy for your fellow feedists

Some respectful feedback from someone who also read the article (I wrote it).

YumNom:
Feedists are in the minority, not fat people.

I’ve found a lot of great thought provoking content on tumblr. Obviously it’s not all good, but what site is? Where do you go to find content if you want to learn and have your views challenged?

Spike:
I’m sorry you didn’t find anything insightful from the article. I’d love to hear your thoughts if you have any, I made sure to ask for feedback given that I only have a single point of view.
1 year

Empathy for your fellow feedists

Nameistoolon:
Spike:
I’m sorry you didn’t find anything insightful from the article. I’d love to hear your thoughts if you have any, I made sure to ask for feedback given that I only have a single point of view.


Why so much emphasis on feabie for altering the community and not things like mukbang getting popularized on youtube and overall society as a whole altering? (hookup culture for example changed even the ability for me to MEET people , like they wont meet unless sex, so i imagine things like that and society have changed the dynamic)

Are there REALLY that many people that had feedism related in person relationships? Or am i just tucked away where there are literally NONE? Asking because such emphasis on the be nice to your exes xD

You never did tell what it was like 'in the good old days' I imagine if such a niche fetish meetups werent that common but besides meetups what is the nostalgia aspect of it they miss? i was on feabie since before i was... should have and it was always how it was. I think it got nicer to be honest. That is just my experience. This site also got a bit more inclusive, i was banned for SAYING I modeled. Feabie was very "be FETISH only or ***, ew youre ace? I am going to dox and bully you" about ... if my feabie is 6 years old id say this is 7/8 and my FF was first before 2013 so around that time :o i see the feedism world change to welcome new people and various types.

But i do want to thank you for the asking them to pay creators, so many want it free and demand skype sessions and all else as a "feeder" when really theyre an encourager and get mad creators exist .
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