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I think these are valid observations, but I fear you have an incomplete view on things.

There's been a heavy emphasis on the feedee models. While I agree the commercialization of this fetish is concerning, you cannot have a market without buyers.

I've lurked in the community long before being an active member. There's a growing sense of entitlement from all corners of this community. I see people openly being entitled to fat people and their bodies to an alarming degree.

For example, if you look in the comments of any feedee or gainer, you'll notice a lot of hostility if they don't gain fast enough or stuff themselves intensely enough, the audience gets nasty. And not just models - regular feedees get this too.

I had a conversation with a fellow feeder not too long about about his struggles finding a feedee. He exhibited the same growing entitlement. I pointed out that when you are pushy and entitled, the only people who will give you the time of day are those that want your money.

But people ain't trying to hear that.

On top of all this, this community has developed a cult-like mentality towards fatness. These days, so many people value extreme weight gain over everything else. It's to the point where feedees that want to go from 400 lbs to 250 lbs for comfort do not feel comfortable talking about these things

Hell, even though I am strictly a feeder, I get a lot of people who are genuinely confused as to why I want to be muscular over being fat.

Back in the day, people were less obsessed about extremes. Sure you had the extreme weight gain crowd, but it was a niche within a niche. But now you have feeders genuinely upset that their feedee - who has gain 50 lbs in a year - is not gaining fast enough. Feedees are mentally spiralling because people are shaming them for not being at least 200 lbs.

I am into extreme weight gain, but we desperately need the kink diversity we are rapidly losing.

Im really interested in this discussion, as with others similar to it.

I think all these characteristics you two mention are true, and i can see this being an effect of people mentally degrading, mostly due to working much harder due to economic crisis. Many people dont even have the time to think. Either they are wasting up in a gig economy job, or they collapse into a couch and recoop for the next day. This, then, means that people dont develop at all! Ideas, from the worldview of someone to something pragmatic like "how do i attract a partner" remain at a shallow level, almost as if waiting to be refined. People in general are very shallow now (On the other hand, im not convinced that the situation has ever been much better).

EDIT: Narcissism! I forgot about narcissism! So, our (western) culture encourages and glorifies more and more narcissism. It is very likely that much of the behavior you inscribed is also an effect on the increased levels of narcissism, among the general population.

What do you think?

I think there's a balance to strike. I think content creators should be paid. They are providing a service that incurs a financial burden on their part to provide it

But at the same tlme there needs to be passion and joy in lt as well.

On the flip side, let's not run off the feedees who are only in it for the love of the game. Lotta people get mad when feedees are talking about their kink escapades only for other users to demand free conteng from them

There's a user on here that is into extreme gaining. No pics, but she never asks anyone for anything. Absolute gem. And yet I have seen pelpme openly harrass her for free content.

This site could support content creators without actually paying them. People who get likes on their pictures could get extra messages and picture views.

As a person who discovered this stuff later in life I don’t have knowledge of anything prior to 2022 and I feel like not much has changed other than in the periphery there’s more people accepting their bodies and saying it’s okay to be fat so I think just on that alone I think this message is off base, I think body positivity and size acceptance has become more mainlined, I don’t see it as much in explicitly kink spaces but I think that’s because it doesn’t need to be. People can go to and be directly body positive without even considering kink. The kink space has become a marketplace to sell content which can people can go without directly considering body positivity. Just my 2 cents as a newb

Yeah, I can see this going left real fast.

Sure, the commercialization of kink is irksome, but clout is a hell of a drug.

Honestly, I think this is a reflection of wider society. Across the board in all demographics, people have grown more isolated. The world's on fire and people are not emotionally regulating themselves in a healthy manner.

I've seen people in the forums explicitly say they enjoy fat shaming randos on the street because it makes them feel better about themselves. I've seen people get into content creation because they are fat and want to feel wanted.

Lotta hurting, lonely people out there in kink space.

I get it. However, you may be unaware of this as you aren't as active in the community these days, and many people place the blame entirely on women.

Again, I am not saying that was your intention. However, I have dealt with several users going on rants about the "stuck-up money-hungry whores" that are ruining the community. It's gotten very ugly.

Thankfully, more men are stepping up to the plate these days. It's nice that more men are being visibly decent people. But the misogynistic people remain.

What is the purpose of purity if only to be defiled

It same with sweet country towns, or that hidden surf break. The initial people are about a core value the feel, comradery, the vibe. Then other notice less layed back people move in. If you get enough people moving in the opportunity people turn up, then the knockers and trolls. It just seems the nature of things.

This is an interesting thread, and many great points have been raised.

I've been part of this community since 2009—15 years now—and I've noticed significant changes. I miss the social aspect more and more. We used to have a fantastic group of people who would video chat, eat together, and meet up in person. It seems that many are no longer interested in friendly gatherings, and both sides—male and female, content creators and buyers—often exploit the community for sexual gratification / financial gain.

Fifteen years is a long time, and changes are inevitable. The way people use social media has evolved, and there’s greater acceptance of larger bodies in society, along with a growing trend of earning extra income through platforms like OnlyFans. While I understand why people want to make some money, it can feel like many who enter the space are simply trying to capitalize on the interest in larger bodies without a genuine passion for the community. This often leads to lower-quality content because the focus shifts to making money rather than pleasure.

I doubt things will return to how they once were. Content creators have always existed, even if they were previously called web models. However, I believe we need to initiate the change we want to see. I've tried organizing local meet-ups to connect with folks from the site, but they often don’t materialize. People need to put in the effort.

While we often discuss the influx of content creators and its impact on the community, I want to emphasize that you can identify as a feeder, foodie, or gainer without actively gaining weight. I was in a feeder/feeder relationship for ten years and only gained two stone during that time. People may lose weight for health reasons and still engage in feederism in the bedroom rather than as a lifestyle, they are still genuine but choosing how and where to indulge in the kink. Personally, my experience helped me embrace my body and fatness, leading to a wonderful relationship, which eventually ended, though we remain friends. Now, I've lost some weight but have come to realize I identify as FFA, likely influenced by my long-term involvement in the community. People change, and even genuine gainers may reconsider their lifestyles and kinks.

There is still room for content. Creators and for those of us who wish to meet and make friends in the space. I agree it does seem that the dominant interactions seem to be transactional. But there are many people who want relationships and friendships from this community.

Speaking as a moderator for a moment: we do not allow solicitation, begging, or advertising for content on the site. We want our members to feel comfortable engaging without feeling pressured to pay for participation in the community. If you encounter any issues, please report them to us.

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FF Team