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Personal trainer defends obesity…sort of?

JN_TumLover56:
Interesting read so far! It seems like based on what you wrote there and your research, it seems like yes we all do know that obesity to an extent does have its risks. But also what exactly is health if you only look at someone based on looks alone? It’s kinda like you are using critical thinking in hand. I like that!

I also like the last paragraph that you had written there. It’s almost kinda similar to what you said on the forum post about why so many people are mad about the BP/FA movements. Heck you can base some of the stuff you have read there to help you out (especially with the few early comments I made on that)!

The only critique that I can say is that I don’t think that it’s just only women who are tired of being bullied. Though they are the majority, I think some men have had their fair share of it. Or really anyone else who doesn’t fit the “beauty standard” is all fair game.

Otherwise I hope this assignment of yours goes well for you!

Munchies:
This is a good point. Sure, women will always have it worse when it comes to fatphobia, but men aren't safe from it either.

For example, it's common for people to see fat men as ugly. How often do you hear people mocking men for being fat the moment they do something someone else doesn't like?

I also see people tell fat men that if they want to find love, they have to have other things that "make up" for their fatness. Hell, when my partner told his parents about me (before we even met or he showed them a picture of me) they were worried I was a scammer trying to get his money. It wasn't anything I did or said. They were convinced that no one would want a 500 lbs man unless they wanted to use him.


I am so sorry that happened to you. I feel this every day too dating a big guy. He told me once he needed to dress nice every day to " compensate" for being fat. I think that idea that fat men are just lazy and slobs is so mainstream. It hurt me so much that he has thought like that.
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Personal trainer defends obesity…sort of?

JN_TumLover56:
Interesting read so far! It seems like based on what you wrote there and your research, it seems like yes we all do know that obesity to an extent does have its risks. But also what exactly is health if you only look at someone based on looks alone? It’s kinda like you are using critical thinking in hand. I like that!

I also like the last paragraph that you had written there. It’s almost kinda similar to what you said on the forum post about why so many people are mad about the BP/FA movements. Heck you can base some of the stuff you have read there to help you out (especially with the few early comments I made on that)!

The only critique that I can say is that I don’t think that it’s just only women who are tired of being bullied. Though they are the majority, I think some men have had their fair share of it. Or really anyone else who doesn’t fit the “beauty standard” is all fair game.

Otherwise I hope this assignment of yours goes well for you!

Munchies:
This is a good point. Sure, women will always have it worse when it comes to fatphobia, but men aren't safe from it either.

For example, it's common for people to see fat men as ugly. How often do you hear people mocking men for being fat the moment they do something someone else doesn't like?

I also see people tell fat men that if they want to find love, they have to have other things that "make up" for their fatness. Hell, when my partner told his parents about me (before we even met or he showed them a picture of me) they were worried I was a scammer trying to get his money. It wasn't anything I did or said. They were convinced that no one would want a 500 lbs man unless they wanted to use him.


I am so sorry that happened to you. I feel this every day too dating a big guy. He told me once he needed to dress nice every day to " compensate" for being fat. I think that idea that fat men are just lazy and slobs is so mainstream. It hurt me so much that he has thought like that.
19 hours

Personal trainer defends obesity…sort of?

JN_TumLover56:
Interesting read so far! It seems like based on what you wrote there and your research, it seems like yes we all do know that obesity to an extent does have its risks. But also what exactly is health if you only look at someone based on looks alone? It’s kinda like you are using critical thinking in hand. I like that!

I also like the last paragraph that you had written there. It’s almost kinda similar to what you said on the forum post about why so many people are mad about the BP/FA movements. Heck you can base some of the stuff you have read there to help you out (especially with the few early comments I made on that)!

The only critique that I can say is that I don’t think that it’s just only women who are tired of being bullied. Though they are the majority, I think some men have had their fair share of it. Or really anyone else who doesn’t fit the “beauty standard” is all fair game.

Otherwise I hope this assignment of yours goes well for you!

Munchies:
This is a good point. Sure, women will always have it worse when it comes to fatphobia, but men aren't safe from it either.

For example, it's common for people to see fat men as ugly. How often do you hear people mocking men for being fat the moment they do something someone else doesn't like?

I also see people tell fat men that if they want to find love, they have to have other things that "make up" for their fatness. Hell, when my partner told his parents about me (before we even met or he showed them a picture of me) they were worried I was a scammer trying to get his money. It wasn't anything I did or said. They were convinced that no one would want a 500 lbs man unless they wanted to use him.

Scarlett315:
I am so sorry that happened to you. I feel this every day too dating a big guy. He told me once he needed to dress nice every day to " compensate" for being fat. I think that idea that fat men are just lazy and slobs is so mainstream. It hurt me so much that he has thought like that.


It's dumb as hell. Like why can't fat people be attractive in their own right? Just setting the fat fetish aside, people need to stop being so ridged with their beauty standards.

With that said, everyone should put effort into their appearance. Not to make up for anything, but because it's good for the mentals.
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Personal trainer defends obesity…sort of?

Arame:
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Fox News, spoke on obesity from an economic point of view, discussing how rising obesity rates lead to higher healthcare costs for taxpayers,
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AHAHAHAHAHAA 🤣

This is so stupid, its like saying "We must do something for covid because a lot of people will die" and instead of letting it as that, we add "... and that will be very bad for the economy!"
18 hours

Personal trainer defends obesity…sort of?

Arame:
...
Fox News, spoke on obesity from an economic point of view, discussing how rising obesity rates lead to higher healthcare costs for taxpayers,
...

Enas:
AHAHAHAHAHAA 🤣

This is so stupid, its like saying "We must do something for covid because a lot of people will die" and instead of letting it as that, we add "... and that will be very bad for the economy!"


You must not be familiar with Fox News.

Good. Keep it that way. Quality of life decision.
17 hours

Personal trainer defends obesity…sort of?

Arame:
...
Fox News, spoke on obesity from an economic point of view, discussing how rising obesity rates lead to higher healthcare costs for taxpayers,
...

Enas:
AHAHAHAHAHAA 🤣

This is so stupid, its like saying "We must do something for covid because a lot of people will die" and instead of letting it as that, we add "... and that will be very bad for the economy!"

Munchies:
You must not be familiar with Fox News.

Good. Keep it that way. Quality of life decision.


No, i am - unfortunately.

Its not that they are biased, its just that they are actively trying to make America a terrible place. The brainrot propaganda they do is just the logical continuation of that.

There is something else i wanted to point out, which ive learned through one of David Graeber's talks "All Economies are Human Economies". Look it up, its actually real good!
17 hours

Personal trainer defends obesity…sort of?

Arame:
...
Fox News, spoke on obesity from an economic point of view, discussing how rising obesity rates lead to higher healthcare costs for taxpayers,
...

Enas:
AHAHAHAHAHAA 🤣

This is so stupid, its like saying "We must do something for covid because a lot of people will die" and instead of letting it as that, we add "... and that will be very bad for the economy!"


Yeah bro, that was extremely stupid. That’s the bias I was talking about. They just had throw the taxpayer line in. That’s every bigot’s favorite talking point. Hiding behind conservatism to disguise their hatred.


Now, let’s discuss said economy shall we?
You mean the SAME economy that creates fat people in the first place??? 😂

Think about it, America literally promotes processed foods it’s in every commercial and on every street. Processed food is usually very high in calories, high in unhealthy fats (hence why it tastes so good), and is also high in simple carbohydrates which is easy to digest hence simple. Once the food has been digested, you feel hungry again, so you eat another meal that’s processed. A diet that’s high in calories that doesn’t keep you full for long is almost a guarantee for fat gain unless you have an high metabolism which why I brought up skinny(Ectomorphic people). In short, America creates the very fat people that they complain about. That literally makes no sense.

Now, this is all great for communities like this because obviously some people LOVE food and or love the feeling of being full or stuffed so much so that it sexually arouses them.

My thing is, who give a fuck? Thats nobody else’s business.
17 hours

Personal trainer defends obesity…sort of?

Arame:
...
Fox News, spoke on obesity from an economic point of view, discussing how rising obesity rates lead to higher healthcare costs for taxpayers,
...

Enas:
AHAHAHAHAHAA 🤣

This is so stupid, its like saying "We must do something for covid because a lot of people will die" and instead of letting it as that, we add "... and that will be very bad for the economy!"

Arame:
Yeah bro, that was extremely stupid. That’s the bias I was talking about. They just had throw the taxpayer line in. That’s every bigot’s favorite talking point. Hiding behind conservatism to disguise their hatred.


Now, let’s discuss said economy shall we?
You mean the SAME economy that creates fat people in the first place??? 😂

Think about it, America literally promotes processed foods it’s in every commercial and on every street. Processed food is usually very high in calories, high in unhealthy fats (hence why it tastes so good), and is also high in simple carbohydrates which is easy to digest hence simple. Once the food has been digested, you feel hungry again, so you eat another meal that’s processed. A diet that’s high in calories that doesn’t keep you full for long is almost a guarantee for fat gain unless you have an high metabolism which why I brought up skinny(Ectomorphic people). In short, America creates the very fat people that they complain about. That literally makes no sense.

Now, this is all great for communities like this because obviously some people LOVE food and or love the feeling of being full or stuffed so much so that it sexually arouses them.


There is no point in arguing against this,really. This is an example where attacking the person (or, in this matter, the Fox channel) instead of the argument is a valid response, because they are not genuine. The key is to find the right rhetoric to make people believe you.


My thing is, who give a fuck? Thats nobody else’s business.


Thats not a really good argument though. For example, if people loved each other they would care for each other's "business" and that would be a good thing.
14 hours

Personal trainer defends obesity…sort of?

Arame:
...
Fox News, spoke on obesity from an economic point of view, discussing how rising obesity rates lead to higher healthcare costs for taxpayers,
...

Enas:
AHAHAHAHAHAA 🤣

This is so stupid, its like saying "We must do something for covid because a lot of people will die" and instead of letting it as that, we add "... and that will be very bad for the economy!"

Arame:
Yeah bro, that was extremely stupid. That’s the bias I was talking about. They just had throw the taxpayer line in. That’s every bigot’s favorite talking point. Hiding behind conservatism to disguise their hatred.


Now, let’s discuss said economy shall we?
You mean the SAME economy that creates fat people in the first place??? 😂

Think about it, America literally promotes processed foods it’s in every commercial and on every street. Processed food is usually very high in calories, high in unhealthy fats (hence why it tastes so good), and is also high in simple carbohydrates which is easy to digest hence simple. Once the food has been digested, you feel hungry again, so you eat another meal that’s processed. A diet that’s high in calories that doesn’t keep you full for long is almost a guarantee for fat gain unless you have an high metabolism which why I brought up skinny(Ectomorphic people). In short, America creates the very fat people that they complain about. That literally makes no sense.

Now, this is all great for communities like this because obviously some people LOVE food and or love the feeling of being full or stuffed so much so that it sexually arouses them.


There is no point in arguing against this,really. This is an example where attacking the person (or, in this matter, the Fox channel) instead of the argument is a valid response, because they are not genuine. The key is to find the right rhetoric to make people believe you.


My thing is, who give a fuck? Thats nobody else’s business.

Enas:
Thats not a really good argument though. For example, if people loved each other they would care for each other's "business" and that would be a good thing.




Nah, I’m attacking both cause it’s a weak argument all together.

And true if it’s coming from a place of love then that is completely different. The problem is, when this topic comes up it’s always disingenuous
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