General

Noah Boart:
I agree, but what if we aks9 promoted being plus size not with gluttony, but with both an accumulation of body shaping and muscle to help keep fat away from hearts and arteries?

There is technically already a sub-sect of lifters who do this. We turn bad health to a new type of body building

Munchies:
Something to point out here: health is only a subsection of fatphobia. You can be an Olympic-level power lifter, and people will still shit on you about your size.

I love obesity as much as the next feeder, but sadly, it's not so simple to eradicate fatphobia. I don't say this to discourage you. I support anything that seeks to push back against any form of bigotry. I only say this because a narrow focus on the issue will leave you vulnerable to attacks from other angles.

LuvsChub04:
Agree,N on a side note Munchies,i met a power lifter few years ago. Very fit yet people still said she was obese... Yet BMIS are another story..
Fatphobia will always exist, same for skinny shaming as well.. Nothing will ever stop it on either side...

Munchies:
Hell, you can be thin and still deal with fatphobia. I remember my mom fat shaming me as a child because I went from 115 to 120 at 5'7". I was 15. Apparently going from the high end of being underweight to the low end of being normal weight made me fat? Idk

Health is truly only one aspect of fatphobia.

Enas:
There are many complex issues in this world, fatphobia is not one of them.

There isn't a health aspect to fatphobia. There is only a perception aspect and a historical/social aspect to it really, because it is entierly a result of behaving on unfiltered -and to be frank, of very bad quality- perception, plus the fact that our current society has decided that fat is "bad" and "ugly" (as opossed to what it had decided for fat, 2 centuries ago, for example).

On a side-note, my own mother has called my gym-rat brother (a very muscular person), "obese".

Munchies:
Wait until you hear about medical fatphobia

Noah Boart:
I agree, but what if we aks9 promoted being plus size not with gluttony, but with both an accumulation of body shaping and muscle to help keep fat away from hearts and arteries?

There is technically already a sub-sect of lifters who do this. We turn bad health to a new type of body building

Munchies:
Something to point out here: health is only a subsection of fatphobia. You can be an Olympic-level power lifter, and people will still shit on you about your size.

I love obesity as much as the next feeder, but sadly, it's not so simple to eradicate fatphobia. I don't say this to discourage you. I support anything that seeks to push back against any form of bigotry. I only say this because a narrow focus on the issue will leave you vulnerable to attacks from other angles.

LuvsChub04:
Agree,N on a side note Munchies,i met a power lifter few years ago. Very fit yet people still said she was obese... Yet BMIS are another story..
Fatphobia will always exist, same for skinny shaming as well.. Nothing will ever stop it on either side...

Munchies:
Hell, you can be thin and still deal with fatphobia. I remember my mom fat shaming me as a child because I went from 115 to 120 at 5'7". I was 15. Apparently going from the high end of being underweight to the low end of being normal weight made me fat? Idk

Health is truly only one aspect of fatphobia.

Enas:
There are many complex issues in this world, fatphobia is not one of them.

There isn't a health aspect to fatphobia. There is only a perception aspect and a historical/social aspect to it really, because it is entierly a result of behaving on unfiltered -and to be frank, of very bad quality- perception, plus the fact that our current society has decided that fat is "bad" and "ugly" (as opossed to what it had decided for fat, 2 centuries ago, for example).

On a side-note, my own mother has called my gym-rat brother (a very muscular person), "obese".

Munchies:
Wait until you hear about medical fatphobia



Enas:
What's the difference though?

Dolkite:
I think we might as well be realistic and accept that obesity is slowly becoming the norm. I keep thinking of that movie "Wall-E" and how everyone is fat, sedentary, and constantly snacking. That's a fairly accurate view of the future and I think people should embrace it rather than fight it. Add to that that our bodies mostly like getting fatter and holding on to fat.

Morbidly A Beast:
People die all the time out of no where who are relatively or absolutely healthy - people are really weird about death in this culture they delude themselves into thinking they are going to live forever, but everyone’s days are ultimately numbered, life is simply too short not to enjoy things. If that means drinking, having a lot of sex, or smoking, eating, driving motorcycles really fast, etc etc than by all means.

I’m not saying be a hedonist or anything like that I think there’s more to our lives than our instant gratification but like it’s simply to short to care if it brings joy. If that makes sense.

Munchies:
Death is a foreign concept in western culture because of how removed from it we are. It's why everyone is so obsessed with health and looking young even though we know deep down we are all going to die one day.

There is an aspect of fatphobia that plays into this. People will look at a fast person and be like "Why aren't you doing everything to avoid mortality?" And they go insane.

Munchies:
Death is a foreign concept in western culture because of how removed from it we are. It's why everyone is so obsessed with health and looking young even though we know deep down we are all going to die one day.

There is an aspect of fatphobia that plays into this. People will look at a fast person and be like "Why aren't you doing everything to avoid mortality?" And they go insane.

Sweetfattie:
Yup. I had an extremely close call in my early twenties, the kind where the hospital told my parents to get my sister home on the next flight to say goodbye because I might not make it to morning. That was part of what spurred me to reevaluate my obsession with dieting and weight loss. Lying there in the hospital bed and reflecting on my life, I remember thinking "I don't remember the last time I ate cheesecake. I would have died hungry, miserable, and without the joy of cheesecake."

Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we may die. That's not to say I don't pay attention to my health, I managed to reverse high cholesterol by eating less fatty meat and more vegetables. (The key is to load those veggies up with intense flavors that hide the taste.) But I also eat cheesecake when I feel the urge.