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Apologies if I just missed something but what is Kita? I did a quick search and didn’t find anything by that name or acronym.

For what it’s worth, I tend to think, based on my own experience of also having pre-sexual leanings toward this stuff from early memory, that kink or sexuality in general is much less rational than what you describe here. I think there are reproductive instincts, but I don’t see the connection between kinky or fetishistic desire and this kind of instinct. It’s hard to explain what I mean, so it might not be worth much in this convo, but I feel like Freud’s idea of “polymorphous perversity,” despite whatever negative connotations come with the word “perverse,” is much more true to my experience as a child than any other theories I’ve heard. I remember feeling odd sensations around fat or pregnant people, around pop culture images of people shrinking, being an animal like a cat or mouse, or around ideas of other odd body transformations (Pinocchio’s nose for instance) before it solidified later with big bodies. It feels like it could have gone any of those directions and many of them have nothing to do with a rationalization of reproductive instinct. And I felt my desires change as I acquired more images to support them like Willy wonka and violet beauregard, or any of the other pop culture examples we can often commonly list.

I also feel like I read something similar in early psychological/philosophical writings like those of William James when he writes about religious experience. I’m not comparing sexuality with those kinds of experiences except that he writes something along the lines of “it’s not rationality that is the deep thing in us, it is what comes after when we have to integrate our experiences”. (Apologies for my paraphrase. All that to say, I feel deeply that our subconscious is much more of a soup of irrational desire than it is anything to do with making sure our genes survive, and while there certainly must be some neurological correlation that goes with this, but I’m suspicious of rational, evolutionary explanations.

Okay, after reading your profile I understand about Kita now, my mistake!

Freud was ultimately not a reliable source of info for anything about how the mind functions, and almost all of his work has been discredited multiple times over throughout the replicability crisis.

Evolution is an a-rational process that produces emergences in an unguided manner. Rationality is a thing we use as a tool to unravel causal connections, but it is far from the only tool. Instincts are, by their very nature, not rational because they evolved without regard to rationality. Kita thinks you have mistaken an explanation of causality that uses rationality as a tool to determine the chain for the processes being rational themselves.

That said, since we are emergent from natural, evolutionary processes, and Kita herself has no spiritual or religious beliefs, she can find no causal relationship between kink and its subjects *but* evolutionary processes. Like how our digestive systems evolved, so did our brains. And they did so without regards to our tools of understanding that would come far later.

(Minor edit for formatting error and typo.)