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Ai generated content, yay or nay?



Enas:
You failed to actually answer my question. Is what is described in the page i linked, what you meant by saying "logical circularity"?

FatGTP:
Implicitly I already answered your question. Playing dumb won't help you maneuver out of the dead end you're stuck in.

Enas:
I will take this as a yes just because what you said earlier sounded like it is what i linked.

So, by definition, circular reasoning requires 2 assertions. One must necesarily be a premise and the other, again must necesarily be, the conclusion. But in what i said, for which you accused me of circular reasoning, i only made one assertion, not two. That means it is definetely not circular reasoning. So this accusation falls apart.

In fact, just because it was a single assertion and not an argument to begin with, it cannot constitute any kind of logical fallacy. Assertions by themselves cannot be fallacious. All they can be is true, or false.

FatGTP:
You are clearly overlooking the implicit assumptions you rely on. That's why the circularity is invisible to you. It will be difficult to help you from the outside as long as you keep confirming those assumptions to yourself.

Enas:
I would again ask you to elaborate but this is getting boring. You are no longer engaging with the thread.

I explained why it is impossible, for what i said earlier, to be circular reasoning, and you completely ignoring that.

Instead you prefer to act mystical, just like oftentimes, intelectual people tend to hide behind complicated terminology. I know that because you accuse and assert things without really elaborating what you mean.

FatGTP:
I already said I can't help you from the outside. You've put yourself in a position, by selectively choosing evidence, that only ever confirms your beliefs. I can't reach you with facts or proof. Or hypothetically, is there anything that could change your views on AI?


I have not expressed my opinions on AI in general (heck, i have created AI myself, im a game dev after all) just on generative AI. ChatGPT, DeepSeek, etc.

If you want to change my views on that, your best shot is to provide me with results that are different enough to convince me that i don't have the full picture.

What you can't do is convince me that ChatGPT does not hallucinate a lot, or that its good and helpfull for society. That is because i have first hand experience of that, and the scinetific consensus suggests that AI has already created a Mass psychosis, addiction, learned helplesness and more.
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Munchies:
In a rare turn of events, I am deeply invested in Enas's famous logic and philosophy session.

Watching him debate FatGTP is. Proving to be fun.

FatGTP:
You're biased and siding with him. Your judgment on the matter is therefore worthless because it's prejudiced.


Actually, historically, Enas and I don't get along. I'm simply being entertained.
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Ai generated content, yay or nay?

FatGTP:
You are clearly overlooking the implicit assumptions you rely on. That's why the circularity is invisible to you. It will be difficult to help you from the outside as long as you keep confirming those assumptions to yourself.


By the way, i know how to extract implicit assumptions.

You basically have to craft a deductive argument from the premise and conclusion of the inductive argument provided by the person who made an implicit assumption to reach its conclusion.

Here is a video that explains perfectly how its done:

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Ai generated content, yay or nay?

Munchies:
Actually, historically, Enas and I don't get along. I'm simply being entertained.


I mean, i hope you get some knowledge out of this...
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Ai generated content, yay or nay?

ScandinavianFA:
Lately I have been noticing a huge uptick in content (usually videos) that is clearly AI created. I’m not sure I like it...


I usually don't like it except for oomfy's work on deviantart.
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