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Munchies   United States
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As for Fox News, I doubt they wield much influence any longer, particularly after having abandoned their core demographic over the last few years. Cable news in general is out of touch with today's news consumer, as evidenced by their aggregate ratings decline.

Woke by and large never meant to most Americans what it meant in in post-colonial Jamaica. To pretend others in contemporary western society, particularly the low-information masses, will associate the term with its original definition is delusional.


I wholeheartedly agree with you about the first part, so I will leave that as is. But you are greatly misunderstanding everything about the second one.

Marcus Garvey was Jamaican, but the term isn't a Jamaican term. It's a black term made by a Jamaican man.

Garvey was part of the Pan-African movement - an international movement centered on the plight of the black diaspora. It included people from the Caribbean Islands, American, Canada, Europe, and various African nations. And about 100 years later it retains it's original meaning. And though non-black people are welcome to use it, a specific flavor of anti-progressive people are against it. They even coined the term "wokeism" to show how much they hate the word.

This is an active, perversion of a civil rights term. It is an active attempt to disempower a minority group. It is malicious, and people are fighting back:

naacpldf.org/woke-black-bad/
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Munchies   United States
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Think of how the term "Jeep" is often used to refer to any off-road vehicle, whether or not it's actually a Jeep product. "Kleenex" is another example. It's commonly known to most Americans to reference facial tissue, regardless of the manufacturer. Most folks have no idea the origin of a brand or term.


We have confused civil rights issues with capitalism.

The whole "Kleenex" and "Jeep" thing is called genericization. This is when a specific brand of something becomes so well known that becomes synonymous with the thing it makes. It's like being burdened by your own success.

As for the term "woke" most people do not have a negative connotation with the word. Most understand it to be a positive thing.

ipsos.com/en-us/americans-divided-whether-woke-compliment-or-insult

They may not know the origins of the term, but since most Americans understand it to be a progressive term, they do not have negative connotations about it.
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Nofbar   United States
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As for Fox News, I doubt they wield much influence any longer, particularly after having abandoned their core demographic over the last few years. Cable news in general is out of touch with today's news consumer, as evidenced by their aggregate ratings decline.

Woke by and large never meant to most Americans what it meant in in post-colonial Jamaica. To pretend others in contemporary western society, particularly the low-information masses, will associate the term with its original definition is delusional.

Munchies:
I wholeheartedly agree with you about the first part, so I will leave that as is. But you are greatly misunderstanding everything about the second one.

Marcus Garvey was Jamaican, but the term isn't a Jamaican term. It's a black term made by a Jamaican man.

Garvey was part of the Pan-African movement - an international movement centered on the plight of the black diaspora. It included people from the Caribbean Islands, American, Canada, Europe, and various African nations. And about 100 years later it retains it's original meaning. And though non-black people are welcome to use it, a specific flavor of anti-progressive people are against it. They even coined the term "wokeism" to show how much they hate the word.

This is an active, perversion of a civil rights term. It is an active attempt to disempower a minority group. It is malicious, and people are fighting back:

naacpldf.org/woke-black-bad/


There is indeed a perversion going on, but the source is not what we're supposed to believe. "Woke" is being used not as a warning against BS, but as a weapon against dissent.

George Orwell warned against such perversions.
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Munchies   United States
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Today's brand of "woke" is being rejected en masse. Disney's revenue is down. Target's stock is down. AB InBev is desperately trying to disassociate their Bud Light brand from a marketing campaign which drove beer consumers away in droves, now pushing patriotic themes instead. Argentina and Taiwan just elected nationalist leaders, dealing a huge blow to the leftist global elite. People the world over are fed up


Let's take a look at the whole "woke" thing being rejected "en masse". As I just pointed out, the majority of Americans are fine with being woke. However, the majority of conservatives are not.

This is a very big distinction.

Now onto the so-called "woke" brands. As I mentioned before, these brands are not actually woke. These are soulless cash grabs. Do not confuse the two. And let's not forget that Into the Spiderverse,
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse, and The Barbie Movie did extremely well in spite of being labeled woke movies.

No, the problem with Disney has less to do with being woke and more to do with a decline in quality pared with questionable business decisions in the name of profit.
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Ver
fool.com/investing/2023/09/01/why-is-everyone-talking-about-walt-disney-stock/
investors.com/news/disney-stock-dow-giant-looks-to-end-2023-on-a-high-note-streaming-rival-to-report-results/

That said. Disney's stocks appear to be rising. And as much as I despise Disney for it's business practices, I'm confident they'll be fine in the long run.

As for Target, it's issues are less about selling Gay flags and more about an overall downward trend for retail. The economy's been rough lately.

cnn.com/2023/06/02/business/target-stock-fact-check-lgbt-backlash/index.html
barrons.com/articles/target-stock-margins-upside-cce24e3e
mercurynews.com/2023/06/02/heres-the-real-reason-targets-stock-is-dropping/

As for Bud Light, it's been on a downward slump for ages. People do not care for the product. And while there is a sizable chunk of transphobes drinking Bud Light, that in an of itself isn't enough to cause a downward spiral. Besides, people of all political stripes drink Bud Light. While some people hating seeing a trans woman linked to their beer, the backpedaling pissed off those who supported it. Meanwhile, the new top rated beer in America, Modelo Especial, as a long history of supporting the LGBTQIA+ community.

mercurynews.com/2023/06/02/heres-the-real-reason-targets-stock-is-dropping/
qz.com/americas-new-best-selling-beer-is-also-an-lgbtq-champio-1850538568

I am not sure you understand the Taiwan thing. Here's a quick and dirty of the siutation:
theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/16/taiwan-election-president-elect-lai-ching-te-democracy-china
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lai_Ching-te
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Progressive_Party


Taiwan's nationalism is not the same as White nationalism. Keep in mind that China doesn't consider Taiwan as it's own nation. So for this country, nationalism means something different. Also, the country just elected a man affiliated with a center to center-left party.

Now, you are right about Argentina electing a right-wing politician. But it was less about rejecting progressivism and more about the economy. After all, Javier Melei is a libertarian, not a conservative. It's a very important distinction.

theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/20/argentina-presidential-election-far-right-libertarian-javier-milei-wins-after-rival-concedes
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Munchies   United States
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As for Fox News, I doubt they wield much influence any longer, particularly after having abandoned their core demographic over the last few years. Cable news in general is out of touch with today's news consumer, as evidenced by their aggregate ratings decline.

Woke by and large never meant to most Americans what it meant in in post-colonial Jamaica. To pretend others in contemporary western society, particularly the low-information masses, will associate the term with its original definition is delusional.

Munchies:
I wholeheartedly agree with you about the first part, so I will leave that as is. But you are greatly misunderstanding everything about the second one.

Marcus Garvey was Jamaican, but the term isn't a Jamaican term. It's a black term made by a Jamaican man.

Garvey was part of the Pan-African movement - an international movement centered on the plight of the black diaspora. It included people from the Caribbean Islands, American, Canada, Europe, and various African nations. And about 100 years later it retains it's original meaning. And though non-black people are welcome to use it, a specific flavor of anti-progressive people are against it. They even coined the term "wokeism" to show how much they hate the word.

This is an active, perversion of a civil rights term. It is an active attempt to disempower a minority group. It is malicious, and people are fighting back:

naacpldf.org/woke-black-bad/

Nofbar:
There is indeed a perversion going on, but the source is not what we're supposed to believe. "Woke" is being used not as a warning against BS, but as a weapon against dissent.

George Orwell warned against such perversions.


See, you get it. You have reading comprehension.
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Newenglander   United States
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As for Fox News, I doubt they wield much influence any longer, particularly after having abandoned their core demographic over the last few years. Cable news in general is out of touch with today's news consumer, as evidenced by their aggregate ratings decline.

Woke by and large never meant to most Americans what it meant in in post-colonial Jamaica. To pretend others in contemporary western society, particularly the low-information masses, will associate the term with its original definition is delusional.

Munchies:
I wholeheartedly agree with you about the first part, so I will leave that as is. But you are greatly misunderstanding everything about the second one.

Marcus Garvey was Jamaican, but the term isn't a Jamaican term. It's a black term made by a Jamaican man.

Garvey was part of the Pan-African movement - an international movement centered on the plight of the black diaspora. It included people from the Caribbean Islands, American, Canada, Europe, and various African nations. And about 100 years later it retains it's original meaning. And though non-black people are welcome to use it, a specific flavor of anti-progressive people are against it. They even coined the term "wokeism" to show how much they hate the word.

This is an active, perversion of a civil rights term. It is an active attempt to disempower a minority group. It is malicious, and people are fighting back:

naacpldf.org/woke-black-bad/

Nofbar:
There is indeed a perversion going on, but the source is not what we're supposed to believe. "Woke" is being used not as a warning against BS, but as a weapon against dissent.

George Orwell warned against such perversions.

Munchies:
See, you get it. You have reading comprehension.


Sadly Orwell's fiction is becoming reality. Those clamoring for socialism will rue the day it comes.
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Munchies   United States
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Nofbar:
There is indeed a perversion going on, but the source is not what we're supposed to believe. "Woke" is being used not as a warning against BS, but as a weapon against dissent.

George Orwell warned against such perversions.

Munchies:
See, you get it. You have reading comprehension.

Newenglander:
Sadly Orwell's fiction is becoming reality. Those clamoring for socialism will rue the day it comes.


Tell me you didn't read 1984

litcharts.com/lit/1984/summary

This is a story about authoritarianism and totalitarianism.
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Letters And Numbers   United States
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Orwell was a socialist

What happened to this thread lol
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Munchies   United States
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Letters And Numbers:
Orwell was a socialist

What happened to this thread lol


This is true.

And it started when a user started making some off color comments that got increasingly off color. So I said something about it. A lot of something about. And he just won't stop with the dog whistles.

I warned him to drop it. He would not. So now we all get to see several rebuttals clamping down on the dangerous misinformation and dog whistles.
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Letters And Numbers   United States
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Letters And Numbers:
Orwell was a socialist

What happened to this thread lol

Munchies:
This is true.

And it started when a user started making some off color comments that got increasingly off color. So I said something about it. A lot of something about. And he just won't stop with the dog whistles.

I warned him to drop it. He would not. So now we all get to see several rebuttals clamping down on the dangerous misinformation and dog whistles.


I’m with ya!
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