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Munchies:
Beloved, don't start talking about a video if you didn't finish watching it. That's not fair of you at all.

I watched this video in it's entirety. I'm going to give it a break down for the lazy people I know will not click on the video.

This is a video essay, made by a fat black woman, is not about hating on fat people. She makes it very clear that she doesn't hate how she looks, she thinks you can be beautiful at any size, and that fat people are valid.

The video is ACTUALLY about the dangers of sacrificing your health for money and fame. She even spends an entire chapter talking about how the body positivity movement has been perverted into something else.

She also gives the same energy to the other side of the spectrum. She talks about people who glorify thinness as if it's the pinnacle of beautify and health only to end up knocking on death's door. This video has a lot of nuance to it that you are glossing over.

Ditzy:
I do support the BP movement and learning how to love yourself no matter how large or small you are.

Arame:
So, what I’ve observed back when social media was still in its infancy is the misogynistic double standards when it comes to being fat. We’ve it propagated in media for over 30 years how it’s acceptable to be fat as a man but not as a woman. Shows like Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, King of Queens etc. where the husbands is fat but the wife is the bombshell.

And we can even look at music, same kind of thing. Biggie Smalls/Notorious B.I.G, Heavy D, Big Pun, Fat Joe, The Fat Boys etc. Why am I mentioning them, you may ask?

Because it’s mighty funny how when Lizzo showed confidence and being unapologetic about her weight, she was “promoting obesity”
But when make rappers literally base their rap persona off of being fat, they was considered the GOATS of their genre.

Lizzo, literally got bullied into losing weight but meanwhile, current rapper T. Grizzly faces zero criticism.


Body positivity and fat acceptance ONLY became an issue when women began to show confidence in themselves instead of feeling sorry for themselves.


Did I forget to mention that Big Pun and Heavy D literally died for being obese and yet to this day are praised for their music but again Lizzo was bullied into a weight loss journey? So she was promoting obesity but they weren’t? When they literally died from being obese??? Smh it’s infuriating

Arame:
Did I forget to mention that Big Pun and Heavy D literally died from being obese and yet to this day are praised for their music but again Lizzo was bullied into a weight loss journey? So she was promoting obesity but they weren’t? When they literally died from being obese??? Smh it’s infuriating

Arame:
Did I forget to mention that Big Pun and Heavy D literally died from being obese and yet to this day are praised for their music but again Lizzo was bullied into a weight loss journey? So she was promoting obesity but they weren’t? When they literally died from being obese??? Smh it’s infuriating

JN_TumLover56:
Interesting take on this topic, very valid points. But with Lizzo’s case her reputation has already been skewed by the allegations of her body shaming her own backup dancers, then with the weight loss then people got bad because of the somewhat hypocrisy.

I have also seen a similar story with Adele when she lost the weight even with being a voice towards being a positive influence for being more curvier at the time.

And I can see why because they try to preach about embracing imperfections and saying to not worry about changing to be skinny to met societal standards… and then when they lose the weight; that’s when people be like “WTF I thought you were confident?”. It seems like it’s a lot more tricky when it comes to balancing being an inspiration to plus size people and not getting carried away from negating your wellbeing. A little something that Olivasworld95 talked about from her weight loss video.

Arame:
Did I forget to mention that Big Pun and Heavy D literally died from being obese and yet to this day are praised for their music but again Lizzo was bullied into a weight loss journey? So she was promoting obesity but they weren’t? When they literally died from being obese??? Smh it’s infuriating

JN_TumLover56:
Interesting take on this topic, very valid points. But with Lizzo’s case her reputation has already been skewed by the allegations of her body shaming her own backup dancers, then with the weight loss then people got bad because of the somewhat hypocrisy.

I have also seen a similar story with Adele when she lost the weight even with being a voice towards being a positive influence for being more curvier at the time.

And I can see why because they try to preach about embracing imperfections and saying to not worry about changing to be skinny to met societal standards… and then when they lose the weight; that’s when people be like “WTF I thought you were confident?”. It seems like it’s a lot more tricky when it comes to balancing being an inspiration to plus size people and not getting carried away from negating your wellbeing. A little something that Olivasworld95 talked about from her weight loss video.

Munchies:
Actually, Lizzo's body shaming pre-dates her getting outed for being gross. There's intersections of marginalizations that make some people's fatness more valid than others.

Arame:
Did I forget to mention that Big Pun and Heavy D literally died from being obese and yet to this day are praised for their music but again Lizzo was bullied into a weight loss journey? So she was promoting obesity but they weren’t? When they literally died from being obese??? Smh it’s infuriating

JN_TumLover56:
Interesting take on this topic, very valid points. But with Lizzo’s case her reputation has already been skewed by the allegations of her body shaming her own backup dancers, then with the weight loss then people got bad because of the somewhat hypocrisy.

I have also seen a similar story with Adele when she lost the weight even with being a voice towards being a positive influence for being more curvier at the time.

And I can see why because they try to preach about embracing imperfections and saying to not worry about changing to be skinny to met societal standards… and then when they lose the weight; that’s when people be like “WTF I thought you were confident?”. It seems like it’s a lot more tricky when it comes to balancing being an inspiration to plus size people and not getting carried away from negating your wellbeing. A little something that Olivasworld95 talked about from her weight loss video.

Arame:
Did I forget to mention that Big Pun and Heavy D literally died from being obese and yet to this day are praised for their music but again Lizzo was bullied into a weight loss journey? So she was promoting obesity but they weren’t? When they literally died from being obese??? Smh it’s infuriating

JN_TumLover56:
Interesting take on this topic, very valid points. But with Lizzo’s case her reputation has already been skewed by the allegations of her body shaming her own backup dancers, then with the weight loss then people got bad because of the somewhat hypocrisy.

I have also seen a similar story with Adele when she lost the weight even with being a voice towards being a positive influence for being more curvier at the time.

And I can see why because they try to preach about embracing imperfections and saying to not worry about changing to be skinny to met societal standards… and then when they lose the weight; that’s when people be like “WTF I thought you were confident?”. It seems like it’s a lot more tricky when it comes to balancing being an inspiration to plus size people and not getting carried away from negating your wellbeing. A little something that Olivasworld95 talked about from her weight loss video.

Arame:
Actually, Lizzo was being body shamed years before the allegations. Mind you, those are allegations, there’s no proof she actually did anything of those things. It’s so bad that comedian, Corey Holcomb, a fat guy himself constantly ridicules Lizzo for her weight claiming any man that’s with her is “settling”