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Illegal to be fat in japan....

"According to new laws passed 4 years ago"... how does that work?


Mod Note: The whole thing flopped a while ago.

Japan's Fat Tax is a flop
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11 years

Illegal to be fat in japan....

There's more detail on the subject here, originally from The New York Times:

crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-399020/fat-being-illegal-in-japan

Some excerpts below:
Under a national law that came into effect two months ago (in 2008), companies and local governments must now measure the waistlines of Japanese people between the ages of 40 and 74 as part of their annual checkups. That represents more than 56 million waistlines, or about 44 percent of the entire population.

Those exceeding government limits — 33.5 inches for men and 35.4 inches for women, which are identical to thresholds established in 2005 for Japan by the International Diabetes Federation as an easy guideline for identifying health risks — and having a weight-related ailment will be given dieting guidance if after three months they do not lose weight. If necessary, those people will be steered toward further re-education after six more months.

To reach its goals of shrinking the overweight population by 10 percent over the next four years and 25 percent over the next seven years, the government will impose financial penalties on companies and local governments that fail to meet specific targets. The country’s Ministry of Health argues that the campaign will keep the spread of diseases like diabetes and strokes in check.
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But critics say that the government guidelines — especially the one about male waistlines — are simply too strict and that more than half of all men will be considered overweight. The effect, they say, will be to encourage overmedication and ultimately raise health care costs.
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The campaign started a couple of years ago when the Health Ministry began beating the drums for a medical condition that few Japanese had ever heard of — metabolic syndrome — a collection of factors that heighten the risk of developing vascular disease and diabetes. Those include abdominal obesity, high blood pressure and high levels of blood glucose and cholesterol. In no time, the scary-sounding condition was popularly shortened to the funny-sounding 'metabo', and it has become the nation’s shorthand for overweight.


That said, little more has been heard on this subject from Japan since 2008, so who knows how it went or what the case is now.
11 years

Illegal to be fat in japan....

Well to be fair it says the Japanese government would be imposing 'financial penalties' on companies and local governments for failing to meet 'specific targets', not fining/locking-up individuals or anything. Whether it would be in the form of fines/taxes, or reducing the amount of money given to them from the main government, is not clear.

They seemed to be going on about the blahblah strain on Japan's health care system and all, as we all know and loathe from them doing it in the west. I couldn't find anything on the net about the story being debunked either.

Edit: Okay, so I found the original article and more specifics.

nytimes.com/2008/06/13/world/asia/13fat.html

The word metabo has made it easier for health care providers to urge their patients to lose weight, said Dr. Yoshikuni Sakamoto, a physician in the employee health insurance union at Matsushita, which makes Panasonic products.
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Even before Tokyo’s directives, Matsushita had focused on its employees’ weight during annual checkups. Last summer, Akio Inoue, 30, an engineer carrying 238 pounds on a 5-foot-7 frame, was told by a company doctor to lose weight or take medication for his high blood pressure. After dieting, he was down to 182 pounds, but his waistline was still more than one inch over the state-approved limit.

With the new law, Matsushita has to measure the waistlines of not only its employees but also of their families and retirees.
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Companies like Matsushita must measure the waistlines of at least 80 percent of their employees. Furthermore, they must get 10 percent of those deemed metabolic to lose weight by 2012, and 25 percent of them to lose weight by 2015.

NEC, Japan’s largest maker of personal computers, said that if it failed to meet its targets, it could incur as much as $19 million in penalties. The company has decided to nip metabo in the bud by starting to measure the waistlines of all its employees over 30 years old and by sponsoring metabo education days for the employees’ families.


Some experts say the government’s guidelines on everything from waistlines to blood pressure are so strict that meeting, or exceeding, those targets will be impossible. They say that the government’s real goal is to shift health care costs onto the private sector.


If there's any internet myth, it's that being fat is outright illegal in Japan. The truth of the matter is a bit more complicated than that, as we can see. As for whether they succeeded, who knows.
11 years

Illegal to be fat in japan....

The whole thing turned out to be a miserable failure, added a link to the first post linking to a topic I made with an update on the story. Over half the people that were meant to undergo their annual exams didn't bother, and hardly any of them that actually exceeded the limits placed on them followed the medical advice given.

A more direct link to the updated info is here:

blogs.afp.com/correspondent/

Also, don't use the O-word for the Japanese thanks.
9 years