General

Refeed:
Round and round we go, where we stop, nobody knows

HanselsWitch:
So if it's a question of eliminating men (and women who don't share your ideology), that sounds like more of a smaller group message board. Maybe within a larger kink site. I mean... look at the history of kink. The only reason it's been half-way normalized is because of men's desire for access. Unless it's a site strictly for the female-attracted, keeping men (the lifeblood to kink sites) out is a surefire way for it to fail.

HanselsWitch:
So if it's a question of eliminating men (and women who don't share your ideology), that sounds like more of a smaller group message board. Maybe within a larger kink site. I mean... look at the history of kink. The only reason it's been half-way normalized is because of men's desire for access. Unless it's a site strictly for the female-attracted, keeping men (the lifeblood to kink sites) out is a surefire way for it to fail.

Munchies:
Only one user was pro-no men. And everyone clowned on them.

And the thread was all about safe spaces. Across the board the only request was to be treated with respect. So unless you are rascist, xenophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, etc. none of this applies to you.

Also I don't think anyone is looking for things to be normalized in a safe-space. It's nice if it is, but it's not a priority.

HanselsWitch:
So if it's a question of eliminating men (and women who don't share your ideology), that sounds like more of a smaller group message board. Maybe within a larger kink site. I mean... look at the history of kink. The only reason it's been half-way normalized is because of men's desire for access. Unless it's a site strictly for the female-attracted, keeping men (the lifeblood to kink sites) out is a surefire way for it to fail.

Munchies:
Only one user was pro-no men. And everyone clowned on them.

And the thread was all about safe spaces. Across the board the only request was to be treated with respect. So unless you are rascist, xenophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, etc. none of this applies to you.

Also I don't think anyone is looking for things to be normalized in a safe-space. It's nice if it is, but it's not a priority.

HanselsWitch:
What I meant by "normalized" was that forums like FF exist at all. Without men, those spaces die. I doubt most men would last in a space where they'll be ousted at the slightest whiff of "problematic" behavior.

I suppose people could dream all day about a place where their ideas are never challenged and nobody says anything that offends them, but it simply will never exist in the real world.

HanselsWitch:
So if it's a question of eliminating men (and women who don't share your ideology), that sounds like more of a smaller group message board. Maybe within a larger kink site. I mean... look at the history of kink. The only reason it's been half-way normalized is because of men's desire for access. Unless it's a site strictly for the female-attracted, keeping men (the lifeblood to kink sites) out is a surefire way for it to fail.

Munchies:
Only one user was pro-no men. And everyone clowned on them.

And the thread was all about safe spaces. Across the board the only request was to be treated with respect. So unless you are rascist, xenophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, etc. none of this applies to you.

Also I don't think anyone is looking for things to be normalized in a safe-space. It's nice if it is, but it's not a priority.

HanselsWitch:
What I meant by "normalized" was that forums like FF exist at all. Without men, those spaces die. I doubt most men would last in a space where they'll be ousted at the slightest whiff of "problematic" behavior.

I suppose people could dream all day about a place where their ideas are never challenged and nobody says anything that offends them, but it simply will never exist in the real world.

Munchies:
You should give men more credit. Most men are decent people. Most men are not going to sexually harrass people or be openly bigotted. It is the percentage of men that *WILL* do that is why there's a problem.

It becomes an even bigger problem when there is a culture of bigotry. So, that's what people are talking about. It's a little sad that you have such a low view of people in general - especially men.

HanselsWitch:
Do we know each other? What exactly tells you I have a low view of men? I was simply stating that most men wouldn't want to deal with environment where they're walking on eggshells... which is more often than not the culture of "safe spaces." Not because most men are bad, but because they don't want anything they say blown out of proportion or becoming a pile-on in the comments. Most women wouldn't want that either, but they're usually judged less harshly.

AnonLovesBlubber:
Chill lady, its just a username. I never said I see you as just blubber.

HanselsWitch:
Do we know each other? What exactly tells you I have a low view of men? I was simply stating that most men wouldn't want to deal with environment where they're walking on eggshells... which is more often than not the culture of "safe spaces." Not because most men are bad, but because they don't want anything they say blown out of proportion or becoming a pile-on in the comments. Most women wouldn't want that either, but they're usually judged less harshly.

Munchies:
Read again, love. This entire thread is about what an idealized safe space would look like. Not about the merits of having a safe space or the pitfalls there-in.

Fantasy Feeder is a safe space for feedists. Regardless of how you feel about it, it is first and foremost a safe space. I don't see men leaving in droves because they feel like they are walking on eggshells.

If anything, there other genders on here that feel like they are in hostile territory because of certain behaviors are being left unchecked.

I am very aware you can overcorrect and become an insular, regressive group. But again, that is not the point of the thread at all. In fact, the majority of people on here are just asking for basic level protections. So I find it curious that you think this would inconvience the average man.

I also find it curious about you saying that women who's views are not in line with the majority of the group. The women would not be wanted in this safe would be racists, homophobes, transphobes, xenophobes, etc. You know, the kind of people who seek to exclude the very people who want this safe space.