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I was a fat kid. My parents put me on diet after diet and I developed severely disordered eating. Learned recently in my 20's that I have PCOS, and when it is controlled, I lose weight, blood sugar stabilizes, etc. Kids should not be put on diets and the language parents use with their obese kids needs to change. Kids grow up hating themselves from being forced to diet. A healthy food regimen includes veggies and fruits as snacks and alongside proteins and complex carbs. I do believe in moderation for things like sweets and pastries. Kids learn from their parents, so modeling healthy behaviors is important.
1 year

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Super dicey proposition. Society today is pushed toward medication and surgery for some good reasons, but also a lot of very corrupt reasons. There's an obesity epidemic for societal reasons, more sedentary lifestyles primarily, but also probably for chemical reasons, food and environmental adulteration and pollution, etc. I may be wrong, even very wrong, but it feels like allowing interests - in all likelihood monied interests - to push medication and surgery on children and the parents of those children... may be a very bad mistake, and additionally akin to paying money to an investment manager that lost your money in order to get advice on who to hire to manage your children's investments. Or something. I mean, it may be fine, or it may be the only workable answer at this point... but it's just so close to paying the people that caused the problem to solve the problem that it seems likely to be... a bad idea.
1 year

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Nok:
Super dicey proposition. Society today is pushed toward medication and surgery for some good reasons, but also a lot of very corrupt reasons. There's an obesity epidemic for societal reasons, more sedentary lifestyles primarily, but also probably for chemical reasons, food and environmental adulteration and pollution, etc. I may be wrong, even very wrong, but it feels like allowing interests - in all likelihood monied interests - to push medication and surgery on children and the parents of those children... may be a very bad mistake, and additionally akin to paying money to an investment manager that lost your money in order to get advice on who to hire to manage your children's investments. Or something. I mean, it may be fine, or it may be the only workable answer at this point... but it's just so close to paying the people that caused the problem to solve the problem that it seems likely to be... a bad idea.


This is wrongthink, book yourself into re-education camp at your earliest opportunity.

Seriously you're pretty close to the mark. On a bigger scale I think we're in The Matrix and we are all emotional power cells as per Morpheus holding up a Duracell. When we get cancer and suffer then that creates a kind of energy they, our spiritual overlords, feed off of. When we become fat and gluttonous then that's another flavour of the energy.

Treating children for obesity is just another twist on squeezing new flavours of emotions from us.

Money itself is a kind of energy. It represents the energy of human labour. Coal is free but after humans have dug it out of the ground and delivered it to whoever pays to be able to burn it, that's what gives money it's value. What ever it is humans make the product or service have monitory value by their efforts.

I envisage a world were obesity becomes the primary driving force for generating money and powering The Matrix. All those people in pods will be eating and becoming larger. Their pleasure from their increasing obesity will provide the spiritual and monitory energy.

Any of these corporations hurting children to provide spiritual and monitory energy should be resisted. If the kids are getting fat then just leave them alone, they are having a nice life.
1 year

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Nok:
Super dicey proposition. Society today is pushed toward medication and surgery for some good reasons, but also a lot of very corrupt reasons. There's an obesity epidemic for societal reasons, more sedentary lifestyles primarily, but also probably for chemical reasons, food and environmental adulteration and pollution, etc. I may be wrong, even very wrong, but it feels like allowing interests - in all likelihood monied interests - to push medication and surgery on children and the parents of those children... may be a very bad mistake, and additionally akin to paying money to an investment manager that lost your money in order to get advice on who to hire to manage your children's investments. Or something. I mean, it may be fine, or it may be the only workable answer at this point... but it's just so close to paying the people that caused the problem to solve the problem that it seems likely to be... a bad idea.

Weetabix:
This is wrongthink, book yourself into re-education camp at your earliest opportunity.

Seriously you're pretty close to the mark. On a bigger scale I think we're in The Matrix and we are all emotional power cells as per Morpheus holding up a Duracell. When we get cancer and suffer then that creates a kind of energy they, our spiritual overlords, feed off of. When we become fat and gluttonous then that's another flavour of the energy.

Treating children for obesity is just another twist on squeezing new flavours of emotions from us.

Money itself is a kind of energy. It represents the energy of human labour. Coal is free but after humans have dug it out of the ground and delivered it to whoever pays to be able to burn it, that's what gives money it's value. What ever it is humans make the product or service have monitory value by their efforts.

I envisage a world were obesity becomes the primary driving force for generating money and powering The Matrix. All those people in pods will be eating and becoming larger. Their pleasure from their increasing obesity will provide the spiritual and monitory energy.

Any of these corporations hurting children to provide spiritual and monitory energy should be resisted. If the kids are getting fat then just leave them alone, they are having a nice life.


Are you okay, man?
1 year

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I have serious doubts it's satire. Yikes.
1 year

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Bruh moment
1 year

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Nok:
Super dicey proposition. Society today is pushed toward medication and surgery for some good reasons, but also a lot of very corrupt reasons. There's an obesity epidemic for societal reasons, more sedentary lifestyles primarily, but also probably for chemical reasons, food and environmental adulteration and pollution, etc. I may be wrong, even very wrong, but it feels like allowing interests - in all likelihood monied interests - to push medication and surgery on children and the parents of those children... may be a very bad mistake, and additionally akin to paying money to an investment manager that lost your money in order to get advice on who to hire to manage your children's investments. Or something. I mean, it may be fine, or it may be the only workable answer at this point... but it's just so close to paying the people that caused the problem to solve the problem that it seems likely to be... a bad idea.

Weetabix:
This is wrongthink, book yourself into re-education camp at your earliest opportunity.

Seriously you're pretty close to the mark. On a bigger scale I think we're in The Matrix and we are all emotional power cells as per Morpheus holding up a Duracell. When we get cancer and suffer then that creates a kind of energy they, our spiritual overlords, feed off of. When we become fat and gluttonous then that's another flavour of the energy.

Treating children for obesity is just another twist on squeezing new flavours of emotions from us.

Money itself is a kind of energy. It represents the energy of human labour. Coal is free but after humans have dug it out of the ground and delivered it to whoever pays to be able to burn it, that's what gives money it's value. What ever it is humans make the product or service have monitory value by their efforts.

I envisage a world were obesity becomes the primary driving force for generating money and powering The Matrix. All those people in pods will be eating and becoming larger. Their pleasure from their increasing obesity will provide the spiritual and monitory energy.

Any of these corporations hurting children to provide spiritual and monitory energy should be resisted. If the kids are getting fat then just leave them alone, they are having a nice life.

GainingFrenchDragon:
I hope this is satire.


I think he means this with his chest.
1 year

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Weetabix:
Just another opportunity to intervene medically and have the state foot the bill.

The battle between the body acceptance people and those who say it should be altered will be epic.

What if Obese becomes and identity, a protected characteristic. They say that deaf people are very proud of their deaf identity having learned sign language and ways of living well as a deaf person. I read a New Scientist article about this. The last thing they want is someone curing them of their identity.

Once someone has incorporated corpulence into their person then it's a direct attack on them to offer to resolve that problem.

Heck it's a direct attack on them if they're still struggling with the fact that they are fat and the mixed messages they are getting about it.

Curiousv:
Why do you have to be such an extremist about it? The vast majority of fat people would like to lose weight. The vast majority of deaf people would love to be able to hear. The vast majority of blind people would love to be able to see. Why do you want to force them to "embrace" it? Why do you want to forbid people from helping them?

Sure, if someone doesn't want that help, that choice should be available too. But don't take away that choice from those who want to use it.


The vast majority? You've either got statistics or you're assuming. When you use big terms like VAST MAJORITY you're trying to strengthen your argument.

For a start some deaf people it's an identity and they don't welcome the 'cure' because they don't regard that there is anything wrong with them. We may disagree but they can have their own ideas.

In a society which shames fat people and makes them suffer like in the post below where the parents put her on diet after diet causing an eating disorder then yes people don't want to be fat. If there was not all this societal punishment for being fat who'd even care if they were fat?

The actual act of eating is pleasurable, no one regrets eating. If they are in pain they remember the pleasure and the fact the pain will pass. Nothing bad about being fat unless you value the way your clothes fit and your ability to run. You can always buy bigger clothes and who wants to run anyway.

Doctors will give us grief but if they just dealt with the consequences and gave up on the warnings we'd all be happier.

Religion regards gluttony as a sin and for those people who want to please God then it's a problem.

If people want to be slim more than they want larger meals then they could achieve that. People should simply accept what they want and the consequences that come with that. You want to be slim then no more pie and more exercise.

So don't say you know what the VAST majority of people want unless you can acknowledge the pressures on their decisions.

And yes I do believe in good and evil and I do think the population are used as emotional energy generators by the Gods, at the very least Satan or his followers trying to generate power.
1 year

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Munchies:
I think he means this with his chest.


Surely time for your 6th jab.
1 year

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Weetabix:

If people want to be slim more than they want larger meals then they could achieve that. People should simply accept what they want and the consequences that come with that. You want to be slim then no more pie and more exercise.

So don't say you know what the VAST majority of people want unless you can acknowledge the pressures on their decisions.



What a way to contradict yourself. It is a lot more than simple diet that affects anyone's weight whether surplus or deficit. If you understand the pressures of someone's decision either way, then you certainly know that the determinant of whether or not someone is "naturally" large have a lot less to do with their food intake and a lot more to do with where they live, the policy that affects their daily life, their income, hereditary conditions and other genetic causes, and a multitude of other marginalizations or circumstances.

Also "religion" doesn't mean just one. Not all religions view gluttony as a sin.

You are not the center of the universe or have any of the answers. Get a grip.
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