Enas:
The purpose of the forums is to educate, right? There could be more people seeking to educate, and to do it in an effective way. That will have some result. That's why i wrote this thread in the first place! Regardless, i hope that you'll find what you need, comrade! (:
Munchies:
You are correct that patriarchy isn't the source of all society's ills. However, it's an enormous leap from "Wow, women sure do have a hard time" to "We should abolish the system because it hurts everyone and rebuild it from the ground up."
I don't care if you are into anarchy, but how will that help systematized patriarchy? Because patriarchy has been around far longer than capitalism. Abolishing capitalism would not abolish patriarchy.
As I said before, patriarchy is both an individual and a systemic issue. Tackling one without the other is ineffective.
You are focusing on too much at once, and it's making you directionless. You are also not keeping in mind who your audience is. This is a fetish site. People come here to escape and be horny. While there's always space to discuss treating people as equals, no one wants to discuss politics or economics. Even the numerous posts discussing gender issues will only discuss them in the context of the site and fetish.
So, if you want to have these deep, complex discussions, it would be best to do it on a better platform.
Enas:
I get this! but I'm also saying that in this site there could be a place for people to learn to have, if not empathy, then at least some more basic stuff like respect and patience.
This should be done in a socialist basis, in other words, it's goal must be to be as useful as possible!
I don't think any part of what i just wrote is irrelevant to this site! I
I just wish to see that, because with that other attitude of "everyone is responsible for themselves" we're clearly not making any step at all!
Munchies:
Enas, if you want to make a difference, then you can start by being empathetic towards people. Based on our previous conversations, you struggle to do that. Once you've worked on yourself, then you can turn outwards and talk to other people.
Enas:
How do you arrive to the conclusion that what i struggle id bring empathetic to people?
Seriously, im asking because what i find myself struggling i think, is communication! I hope i dont bother you by asking im just left really confused!
Munchies:
Have you forgotten all of the sexist and racist things you've said to me? The boundaries you've crossed because you don't think they matter? How you've actually said that empathy and respect aren't necessarily important?
Because I haven't.
The purpose of the forums is to educate, right? There could be more people seeking to educate, and to do it in an effective way. That will have some result. That's why i wrote this thread in the first place! Regardless, i hope that you'll find what you need, comrade! (:
Munchies:
You are correct that patriarchy isn't the source of all society's ills. However, it's an enormous leap from "Wow, women sure do have a hard time" to "We should abolish the system because it hurts everyone and rebuild it from the ground up."
I don't care if you are into anarchy, but how will that help systematized patriarchy? Because patriarchy has been around far longer than capitalism. Abolishing capitalism would not abolish patriarchy.
As I said before, patriarchy is both an individual and a systemic issue. Tackling one without the other is ineffective.
You are focusing on too much at once, and it's making you directionless. You are also not keeping in mind who your audience is. This is a fetish site. People come here to escape and be horny. While there's always space to discuss treating people as equals, no one wants to discuss politics or economics. Even the numerous posts discussing gender issues will only discuss them in the context of the site and fetish.
So, if you want to have these deep, complex discussions, it would be best to do it on a better platform.
Enas:
I get this! but I'm also saying that in this site there could be a place for people to learn to have, if not empathy, then at least some more basic stuff like respect and patience.
This should be done in a socialist basis, in other words, it's goal must be to be as useful as possible!
I don't think any part of what i just wrote is irrelevant to this site! I
I just wish to see that, because with that other attitude of "everyone is responsible for themselves" we're clearly not making any step at all!
Munchies:
Enas, if you want to make a difference, then you can start by being empathetic towards people. Based on our previous conversations, you struggle to do that. Once you've worked on yourself, then you can turn outwards and talk to other people.
Enas:
How do you arrive to the conclusion that what i struggle id bring empathetic to people?
Seriously, im asking because what i find myself struggling i think, is communication! I hope i dont bother you by asking im just left really confused!
Munchies:
Have you forgotten all of the sexist and racist things you've said to me? The boundaries you've crossed because you don't think they matter? How you've actually said that empathy and respect aren't necessarily important?
Because I haven't.
Alright now i get why you think that.
But, for one, you've based that on what i *told* you (and that's obviously where my bad communication might ruin my point)
Also you're propably remember it a bit too blurred. I think empathy is the most importand thing in humans.
And second, that was what? 3 months ago? I've been changing a lot during these last, grinding 3 months!
Edit: i apologize if i sound mad or something, im just trying to make my point clear 😅
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