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Ai images

candyscorpion:
To respond to the actual topic in the thread, I am also sick of seeing AI images. Regardless of where the pictures are scraped/stolen from, their database for their prompts is limited and inherently unimaginative, and it therefore ends up spitting out the same recursive imagery over and over again. It's oftentimes rubbery and ugly and if it's looked at for longer than a handful of seconds the cohesion of the image itself tends to fall apart.
As OP said, it also detracts from the unique shapes and sizes of different people and their gains, as well as the diversity of ways a body can carry weight. The majority of AI images I see are all the exact same tight round belly on an otherwise average (perhaps content aware-scaled) body. (And usually a white body.) The way AI generates skin folds rarely cascades in a natural manner; it reminds me of seeing novice artists (usually kids) score a bunch of random diagonal lines all over a character's clothing to imply folds because they don't have a grasp of gravity yet. They know folds should be there in order for it to look natural, but they don't understand how they work or how they form. So seeing a bunch of AI art depict fat people as either made of inflated latex (unintentionally) or like random lumps of flesh is not only literally objectifying, it also slides very quickly into uncanny valley territory. There's style, and then there's error.

Because of the way AI works and the images it pulls from, it also tends to produce very boring images of people standing listlessly in front of a background. Even when self-proclaimed "AI artists" purport to wield their prompts like paintbrushes, it's extremely rare if not impossible to see AI images with dynamic poses or angles. Even for the more unrealistic fetishes like expansion/inflation, the average DeviantArt gallery will have more imaginative pieces than the best AI. Things like POV shots, sequences, custom (original or fan) characters, and so on aren't really possible with AI. But I guess if you're the kind of person who's been getting off to templates to begin with (...also like many DeviantArt fetish accounts), AI fits the bill, I guess.


Munchies:
In fact, a lot of AI is marketed on not paying artists. It's one thing if you, for example, want to use AI art for the cover of your latest fat kink story.


Candyscorpion:
I don't know about you but I can't imagine anything that would put me off more to reading a story than AI cover art. There are billions of free use stock images and plenty of artists in the community to commission. You could even collaborate with models to pose for your story's cover, or if a model's series inspired your story, ask for their permission to use it for the cover! The worst thing they can say is no.

Your story can be the hottest thing ever written but slapping AI on it feels like wrapping it in a dirty dishtowel. After all, both are comprised of a bunch of junk it mopped up.


There are professional, working artists who are creating very interesting things with AI, but it’s not fetish porn or (not to stereotype too much) the stuff a dull IT guy with a midjourney sub and no passion to study art past 9th grade art class makes and calls a masterpiece. There still might be ethical/IP questions about some of that (none at all about some, though. It depends on what the artist is doing), but it’s hard to deny that it’s captivating. And I think non professionals come up with weird, funny things using AI, too. Just not really in the photorealistic fetish porn arena, right? That’s pretty dull stuff, artistically, even when it’s the real thing and not AI.
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Ai images

I’ve seen some pretty fatphobic stuff with ai memes like the Lamborghini Gamer Toliet or the planet mtn dew meme
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Ai images

Morbidly A Beast:
I’ve seen some pretty fatphobic stuff with ai memes like the Lamborghini Gamer Toliet or the planet mtn dew meme


Note to self: avoid thing called "Lamborghini Gamer Toilet"
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Morbidly A Beast:
I’ve seen some pretty fatphobic stuff with ai memes like the Lamborghini Gamer Toliet or the planet mtn dew meme

Letters And Numbers:
Note to self: avoid thing called "Lamborghini Gamer Toilet"


Probably for the best smiley
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Kissasta:
As a person who draws things for people and myself, I kinda need to be opposed to ai art and related generative materials. I think the technology and discussion behind the ethics, legality and implications are extremely fascinating and should be explored.
Unfortunately, much like the whole snafu with crypto/the block chain, the actual implementation and use of the tools available out pace it's own infrastructure and purpose, mostly in the persuit of greed or short cuts. Too many businesses wanting to use it to cut out writers and artists, leading to low quality stolen reproductions of others works, conversely a lot of "ai artists" and "ai writers" that simply generate materials with little editing or effort end up diluting the sites they deploy their galleries in.
It's a shame because I find ai visualization fascinating as it reminds me of the images my mind conjures up in dreams, weird and off but recognizable and a neat basis for a muse to build on.
I've found concepts like the proof of concept game "suck up!" interesting in having ai generated npc scripting being able to generate fairly cohesive responses and simple decisions for the games objectives to have a lot of potential when coupled with smart writers to build a greater narrative. But for now, the good is horribly outweighed by the negative and we really aren't taking the right steps to be able to be responsible for the genie we've made.


I like your balanced view on this. You recognize that it can be a powerful tool if people would use it well, and I completely agree that right now they're not - and they won't for a long while yet.

(I'm very pro-artist/writer and don't like the things I've seen with how ai is being developed/trained or how it's being used.
At the same time, I appreciate technology and the potential ai has as a powerful tool if people could learn to use it nicely instead of for greed).
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