Chimneychonga:
Interesting, I haven't heard of them being combined like this. But even in the worst case scenario, the worst effects of a semiglutide are only 1% from the physiology of the patient. Aside from a from the odd defective needle the experience the same even when applied by oneself. Compare that to invasive surgery (removing stomach tissue and stapling the stomach shut), where not only the materials and knowledge matter, but the experience of the surgeon as well. If you got the cash and travel time, your odds are much better to survive w/o complications with a skilled surgeon than your local operating room where you may be stuck with a rookie. If I had to choose for myself, I know which treatment would be faster.
As for semiglutide costs, the ingredients aren't the problem: everyone but the US generally has a better time getting it for what it's worth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pndCjCKNZfQ
Frankly, it's scalping the US because R&D necessary to invent the drug was banking on the US to pay for it, and they don't want to stop the revenue by solving the problem until they get their fill. Thus, why America had a shortage while you could hop across the border and get it for a steal. And if the patent expired, people would make a generic, everyone that can take it would take it like aspirin.
Munchies:
Beloved, you are missing the point.
This isn't about the efficacy of semaglutide. I don't think anyone is questioning that. It's about understand that you need different tools for different things.
Did you know that despite all of our medical advances, people are still using leeches and bloodletting in your average hospital? Sure, we don't use them the same way we used to, but there is still a medical use for them.
Interesting, I haven't heard of them being combined like this. But even in the worst case scenario, the worst effects of a semiglutide are only 1% from the physiology of the patient. Aside from a from the odd defective needle the experience the same even when applied by oneself. Compare that to invasive surgery (removing stomach tissue and stapling the stomach shut), where not only the materials and knowledge matter, but the experience of the surgeon as well. If you got the cash and travel time, your odds are much better to survive w/o complications with a skilled surgeon than your local operating room where you may be stuck with a rookie. If I had to choose for myself, I know which treatment would be faster.
As for semiglutide costs, the ingredients aren't the problem: everyone but the US generally has a better time getting it for what it's worth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pndCjCKNZfQ
Frankly, it's scalping the US because R&D necessary to invent the drug was banking on the US to pay for it, and they don't want to stop the revenue by solving the problem until they get their fill. Thus, why America had a shortage while you could hop across the border and get it for a steal. And if the patent expired, people would make a generic, everyone that can take it would take it like aspirin.
Munchies:
Beloved, you are missing the point.
This isn't about the efficacy of semaglutide. I don't think anyone is questioning that. It's about understand that you need different tools for different things.
Did you know that despite all of our medical advances, people are still using leeches and bloodletting in your average hospital? Sure, we don't use them the same way we used to, but there is still a medical use for them.
I suppose in that sense, you're right. There will be fringe cases where this will be a known workaround. But I've seen cases (namely Boogie2988) where people treat bariatric surgery as a miracle cure, and from sheer ignorance either drink their calories to undo their weight loss, or stretch their stomach so far that they're back to square one. You could argue the cost per year where it's better than placebo, but if that ever happened to me I'd be pissed even though it would technically be my fault in that case.
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