Kacchan:
I can understand the contrast between celebrating "being" versus celebrating "becoming".
I've always thought that Fat Positivity was about accepting fatness as a beautiful state of being - that someone can be fat and attractive, which stands in contrast to the incorrect social bias that fat is unwanted, unattractive, or unsexy. I LOVE the body positivity movement, because I truly believe that fat is sexy as hell, and that a person should not be judged, discriminated against, or made to feel "less than" just because of their size. It should be about the notion that you ARE beautiful right now in your fat body, and that you do not need conform to someone else's idea of the "preferred size".
I see feederism a little differently, in that I also celebrate the sexiness of transformation - that a person can be sexy in a different way when they are in the process of getting FATTER. It needs to be consensual, and it needs to be not about the demand of the feeder but about the journey of the feedee making an intentional choice to alter themselves because THEY like it (not because someone else wants it for them).
I don't see these two as exclusive or incompatible, though. I believe that you can find someone sexy both as fat AND as getting fatter.
But - to earlier points made - if someone defines feederism as a sexual expression of control/power and that it objectifies a feedee rather than celebrates an empowered and intentional choice, then yes - I can see why our community would be viewed negatively.
It becomes our obligation to empower our feedees and make the feederism community about empowering someone to choose to become fatter because they desire it, not because they have to "get fatter for us".
This was a bit more wordy than I originally intended - hope it makes sense!
I think that is was well said! Though I think that body positivity is far more than just for plus size people. It can also be for people of conditions, and other disabilities!
11 months
Munchies:
There is a lot of fatphobia in this community too. Even OP has admitted to such in another post. So it's not fair to say we are body positive as a whole. Also, a lot of feedists talk about fat people in dehumanizing ways - especially those deemed too fat or too small.
Yeah I could see that too. I’ve never thought that (most) feedists are part of body positive to begin with.
11 months
Well as much as many of us wish to have a the fat princess/prince or our dreams. Keep in mind that this fetish is also a business too. So do socialize around here at your own risk.
But hey there’s nothing wrong with saving up on money. For your daily expenses and to pay off college stuff. 👍
11 months
Sure I definitely have had moments where I watched some women adjusting her jeans only to show off their belly briefly as they were readjusting their shirt.
Or there was one time at work when I was helping out some lady in her 50s (I think) who had quite a bit of tummy. And when I was all done loading her stuff, she took care of tying everything up and I was able to see her belly button while reaching upwards. It was a moment where I had a spark of excitement. 😅
11 months
It’s a tough thought about it. But I can understand the frustration out of your post. And as an FA it can be stressful to hear and see such things. When stuff like fat acceptance and/or body positivity is in questioned right now.
Keep in mind the Feederism is one of those fetishes that is VERY taboo outside of our community and into the rest of the world. Sometimes even other plus size communities have Feederism frowned upon.
From my experience when we have the two worlds of both acceptance AND a fetish linked together, it is kinda a bad look for things in a larger space. Especially towards others who are on the more conservative spectrum are against extreme sexuality.
But hey that’s my take on it.
11 months
I think for me personally, it came from my deep attractiveness towards bellies. I mean my username speaks for itself! 😅
Now when I was younger I’ve always found a spike of sexual excitement with belly buttons. But then it evolved to the whole belly, and then when I got my awakening from finding out that chubbier bellies were a lot more better. Then I started paying more attention to that too.
Eventually the more big belly content I was seeing, Feederism did came around naturally. Especially when I became a full time Fat Admirer.
Now I’m not into Feederism as a kink anymore as I used to (after too much bad experiences). But I still do love a belly that’s well stuffed or bloated every once in a while.
11 months
MrOverstuffed:
I just wanna mention our girl Mochii Babii was publicly hated and shamed on youtube by a youtuber that had a superior number of subscribers. Swolenormous is his name, and omfg I've never felt such anger for how awful that is! This man abused his audience and power as a creator to harass some girl on the internet who just loves to eat a lot and show off the body she's making. He even said he almost threw up, not to mention the comments are littered with hatred for her, saying shes disgusting and shit.
I don't get it! Hate is never appreciated, accepted, or wanted! Just because someone isn't living YOUR healthy lifestyle does not mean it's bad. These people are delusional and spread so much hatred that she left youtube. It's awful.
I also just left a comment on that stupid video defending our girl. She's far from disgusting, what's disgusting is that humanity accepts making someone feel like they should kill themselves because they have fat on their body, EVEN IF THEY JUST GAVE BIRTH!! Like WTF!!
(Sorry, I'm really angry about all of this)
Hey you’ve got every right to be frustrated about it. I mean this is why I’ve been getting so much anxiety lately almost every time I log into YouTube.
11 months
I definitely think we should have a discussion like this, because I have noticed it A LOT more recently than ever before! Especially since I have been getting anxiety about it every time I have to log into the internet.
Sometimes I do worry about it how will it effect the BBW, BHM and FA community and it’s future going forward.
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Right then, so as far as I know fat hate has been around for as long as I remember. Especially if we’re talking about those “offensive” fat jokes from forms of entertainment and media. And I was very much aware of all this from personal experience and before body positivity/acceptance became relevant.
I also know that body positivity/acceptance is somehow allied with LBGTQ+ and Liberal groups and types of media. And guess who opposes? The Conservatives. Yes I think that the Conservatives (or conservative minded people) might have something to do with the rising hate towards fat acceptance recently.
Now I’m not attacking the Conservatives, because they’re NOT the ONLY reason. But it’s something to think about.
There’s also the fact of the statistic side of things of the rising levels of obesity around the world, not to mention the death toll of heart disease and other complications from obesity. And I believe some people now hate and/or turn their back on fat acceptance because of that too, especially when they’ve lost a loved one relating to this.
Finally, I think that some people now hate fat acceptance is because of the hate some people get within the community from like-minded individuals! It’s also explains on how some liberals turned to the dark side because of the people who one had supported/believed in hates them just as much as ones from the other side. And honestly that doesn’t surprise me from my own experience from being on here *cough *cough.
Munchies also has a point that fat hate it the “few socially acceptable forms of bullying” because of medical reasons and the diet/weight loss culture that has brainwashed people into believing that “fat is a kind of moral failure”. Which is depressing to see and hear about as a guy who likes bigger people, but it’s painfully true to an extent.
I also liked Angelette’s point of the cringe culture too. Now there are some exceptions like the “I identify as skinny” thing is a little egotistical in my opinion. But some people really like to label someone plus size and confident as cringe because it’s something that their egos are too big to understand something out of the ordinary.
So props to you fellas!
Oh boy, that was a looong post! So I apologize about that, but I had a LOT to say about this! But it’s lovely to know that I’m not alone who feels this way. So with that I thank you!
11 months
Well being someone who’s about 5’11 with a little bit of muscle. Some people do assume that I would be somewhat hefty. But really I’m not as heavy as I look as soon as someone has me up on their shoulders or just straight up lifting me. 😅
1 year
52Percent:Everyone’s losing weight huh? Yeah I’ve been noticing that a lot too. Buckle up everyone, we’re about to witness the beginning of the end of an era.
JN_TumLover56:That is quite a bit excessive, but at the same time I can understand where you are coming from.
Munchies:This is whole thread is a huge nothing burger. Fat people are going nowhere.
Now, there's a conversation to be had about fat positivity and such. But the fight against fatphobia is different from the unfounded fear that fat people will stop existing.
I hope you are right about this! Even if you and I don’t like each other, your opinion in this thread does make things sound more hopeful?? I’m not sure what the best word for it, but I do appreciate it (for me personally).
1 year