d12123 wrote:


*coughs up my dinner* ummmm... When you say "pretty solid backing" I assume you mean that intelligent design is backed by Divine Grace? Because empirical research sure as heck doesn't back it up

Rather than working myself up, throwing links to research, I'll just paste this quote:

Harvey Birdman: [facing the jury]: A talking gorilla! A talking gorilla! Don't you people see, a talking gorilla. Links, no longer missing. Evolution, right here, take a picture.

Lollllll

And are you really claiming that Atheism is a non-religious religion? Sorry, but by your logic, secularism would be a religion too... And both athiesm and secularism are based on the rejection of divinity and religion as driving forces behind human activity.

I'm sorry, but *rolls on my floor laughing*

And seriously to the original poster, I hope you find someone who complements your social beliefs and values

Slug wrote:
I wouldn't care if my significant other believed a bearded man created the world. Because we honestly cannot know if that is true. As long as she doesn't try to drag me into a church or convert me I'm fine.

But, what I couldn't stand is if my partner was a new earth creationist, evolution denyer or believes in homeopathy to give three examples.

Why you might ask?

Because the universe isn't 6000 years old. It's 15 billion years old and there is lots of scientific proof.
Because evolution is a fact and there are endless amounts of proof verifying evolution.
Because the entire idea about homeopathic medicin is to dilute something so much that there is nothing left of the active ingredient.

Same goes for politics. I don't try to impose my way of thinking on anyone. I might tell someone of my world view, but I don't want to convert anyone. The same should go for my partner.

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And as for religion in the US, well, that's just ***ed up. I can understand why american atheists are more agressive than europeean.

No politician in the US can "come out" as an atheist and expect to be elected president. (In Sweden there's the complete opposite, to come out as a believer in a religion is political suicide, wich is just as bad as the opposite)
You have "In God We Trust" on your money.
The bible is the thing you swear on when taking oaths.

Coming from a highly secularized country as Sweden I find this highly disturbing.

I don't want to know what my politicians think about god.
I don't want any political or religious statement on my currency.
I don't want to swear on anything but the constitution and laws of my country, all else is unimportant.

All these things oppress atheists. In much the same way people with a different skin color, fat people, women, LBTG people and all other minorities are still oppressed due to prejudice.

Don't be ignorant. But above all...
PREACH LOVE! NOT HATE!

Fatology wrote:

The "us vs. them" mentality can take many forms. Sadly its existence in most cultures takes form in faith, because it's the only difference that can never be logically reconciled with thoughtful discourse. For example:

Discrimination based upon race? Modern research has proven that there is no reliable genetic connection between skin-tone and other traits. It's merely a scapegoat for cultural differences -- and in first-world cultures it's widely accepted that discrimination based upon race is immoral.

And yet faith, (defined as, beliefs based not upon logical reasoning nor intuition but emotionality and adherence to tradition/rituals) enjoys a cultural taboo in the first-world when it comes to being challenged. Doing so will likely paint one as caustic and downright mean, to the faith-holder and any peers -- regardless of how grounded in reality (evidence) one's case is.

That's my issue with how our culture treats faith: it's not open to thoughtful discussion, despite having a very real impact on the world we live in.

FluffyMcMittens wrote:
I just think anyone who says religion is stupid is an idiot, just as much as people who say atheism is stupid are idiots too.

A "Free Thinking" organization really shouldnt be so critical of peoples free choice to believe in a god.

So i cant see religion ever being a problem with me but i suppose the close mindedness of others is going to make it an inevitable occurance

yakusoku wrote:
The way i loook at it is. I personaly dont beleave in god. Thats ny choice and my choice alone. If someone beleaves in something. Who am i to tell them differently. Just like how i dont like folk preaching to me or telling me i am wrong in my beliefs. I wouldnt dare try and tell someone what they beleave in.

Sadly some folk do feel the need to convert folk. Or point out how wrong the other person is. And i can understand how important it is to folk. I just tell them i beleave in aliens and ghosts and see if they argue back about lol.

Everyone should beleave in what they want. But eveeeyonw should also respect others beliefs even if they dont agree

scrambledegg wrote:


Just a shame there are so few of you, and the ones I do know are all in the USA!