Does anybody is here because wants a relationship?

Juandavid:
It’s so hard to connect with somebody here. I mean, does anybody really wants a relationship?


You will certainly wont find the love of your dreams. (because... FF is not a dream)

What there is, however, is a possibility to find someone who you will enjoy talking with, and possibly build an irl relationship out of it. But thats not destiny, written by gods. There isnt something that guarantees this will happen. Its a possibility nevertheless.

I know for myself i certainly want a relationship, more than anything, but there are no girls from Greece here.
Sadly i have never managed to even interact with one, ever! 😅

Which sucks but thats life. The question is, what you do with it?
8 months

Feedee regret

Nok:
They are worse than human garbage, bordering on being truly evil. There are obligate predators, people like serial killers that are driven to do evil, but in the same way that I'm driven to eat chocolate or maybe someone with tourettes is driven to tick. As a society, we need to remove them, but their "evil" is overblown.

Then there are facultative predators and opportunists, people that do evil because they think it's fun and their bored or because it is moderately easier than something else (or, tbf, because they had it modelled for them by other people in their lives, friends, parents, etc.). People that intentionally cause pain and damage and are not "unwillingly" evil. Those people are truly among the worst humanity has to offer, imho, and I'd say the group you describe falls in that category.

Morbidly A Beast:
I don’t think its accurate to say fat women are vulnerable


Oh thats actually irrelevant! The point Munchies tries to make with this is what ideas these people have, of women! This is kind of the status quo ideology, that "women are weak and men are strong" and that "fat is Weaknesses".

Regardless of if these are true, thats the ideology, thats how people percieve things.
8 months

Feedee regret

Munchies:
I see a lot of posts on this site lamenting female feedees and gainers that don't have a fat kink. I am curious to know your thoughts on male feeders that don't have a fat fetish, but are looking for vulnerable women.

Nok:
They are worse than human garbage, bordering on being truly evil. There are obligate predators, people like serial killers that are driven to do evil, but in the same way that I'm driven to eat chocolate or maybe someone with tourettes is driven to tick. As a society, we need to remove them, but their "evil" is overblown.

Then there are facultative predators and opportunists, people that do evil because they think it's fun and their bored or because it is moderately easier than something else (or, tbf, because they had it modelled for them by other people in their lives, friends, parents, etc.). People that intentionally cause pain and damage and are not "unwillingly" evil. Those people are truly among the worst humanity has to offer, imho, and I'd say the group you describe falls in that category.


I uh.... I cant see the post youre replying to!

Also im curious, how do you mean "evil"?
8 months

Advantages of having a fat boyfriend

Uuuhm, reading this makes me think we should ask the programmer to increase the character limit on profile description, because i've capped it! XD
8 months

Feedee regret

Morbidly A Beast:
Content Creators are Toxic for the parasocial aspect it sends mixed signals to people who probably don’t know better, but it really isn’t the creators fault but like it isn’t said enough I feel like. But I also think sex work is real work. Big brain.

BigBallBellyGirl:
Agreed! I'd say that content creation is absolutely valid entrepreneurship, and I certainly respect people who are able to make it profitable. I think the danger is when people assume everyone on the site wants to put out content and is somehow not participating appropriately in the community if they are not doing so. As fat people, we don't exist for others' gratification. We exist as whole humans, all by ourselves, with the right to be active here and in any other space we choose in whatever way we choose.

Enas:
I think people, especially in America but in other places too, are much more selfish and much more... stupid, than that (i have a theory of stupidity but its gonna be too much to write it here), and i mean that litteraly. Not to offend, these are just the words that describe what im trying to say. From their point of view they see they cant find a partner the way they expect or desire to. They then indentify this as a problem. Instantly, the ideological narative of individualism kicks in and puts it as "Its either my fault or their fault" which might already be false, and of course entitled people almost always automatically assume that "its not my fault" without ever giving it proper thought. And then they are angry at other individuals, like being mad at someone will fix any problem.

Also, one question i have about what you write, what is "valid enterprenuership"? Is there a kind of enterprenuership that is not valid?

BigBallBellyGirl:
That's a good question, and honestly, I'm not entirely sure how to answer that. I think I'm pushing back against misconceptions that visual content creation somehow makes a person less authentic because they're "in it for the money". My point was that I applaud people who are able to monetize. It's just not what all overweight people on these sites are looking for.

I wasn't quite able to fully close the loop on that thought, but I hope that makes some sense.


People usually judge from an idealistic point of view, which is useless and bizare, if not dangerous and destructive.
People want "The real thing" which is nothing more than an idea of what the real thing is. They compare actually real things with it and usually those fail the test. This is what happens with content creators. They are judged against the idea of pure, of "honest"... and even sexist if we're talking about female content creators, in terms of "The role of women is to please men" which is raised as an ideal, in that idea.

Then when they fail this, unreasonable, test people come up with all these negative. That they are selfish. Or that they are dishonest. This is a common trend across people who subscribe to individualism and are oblivious to its shortcomings.

A materialist analysis is what is actually helpfull here, but who is really going to sit down and think? People are either too tired from their daily lives, or too stupid, or both, to do that. So i shall try to put it as good as i can.

When someone that belongs to the working class (i.e. People who need to rent themselves to get a wage in return, which will allow them to survive) is trying to make content, in order to sell it, thats propably a means of survival. Not everytime, but most. This means that they cannot support the lifestyle they need to, in order to survive. In the US that means owning a car and paying a lot for fuel too, because otherwise you wont get around to the stores to buy food and stuff.

If the above is true, then the person who creates content will design the content so that it will service its goal, which is to sell. What that means is prioritizing the maximization of its exchnage value, above the use value or the real value (how much labor is required for it). Thats because prices in a market are the reflection of the exchnage value of comodities. Something having a high exhange value means more people want to pay more money, to get it.

What i just described, is comodification. It is caused by market dependency and the profit motive. Its the capitalist system's dynamic to commodify everything. By what ive suggested above, you can understand how genuine and honest creator makers are; the same as any capitalist is. That is they are pushed by social forces (demand) to behave in certain ways (supply the demand) and they have even less power than capitalists, because they dont own any significant means of production, which is one significant source of power. They could definetely do better, if they didnt need to comply with that very narrow line of comercialism but thats where we are.

And then there are people who only look at the symptoms and indentify
8 months

Feedee regret

Johnxyz:
I would much rather the people who are online to make money have their own site. There's nothing worse than a feedee coming on to you like they like you, and then asks for money. Of course, with me being 73, I know anyone coming on to me is likely looking for money.

Its a very hard thing to do that because capitalism is sooo good at infultrating into new areas. Thats why in places they have explicit rules to prevent that. Yet that is trying to sail against the flow, and these rules are often bypassed.

The only way to trully stop that, i think, is by kind of brute forcing it. That requires an ideology, that the overwhelming magority of the users can and would have to subscribe to, and that ideology should be something like "Comercialization is bad, we shouldnt do or allow it here, in order to for this community to flourish, as a community!“

But thats not gonna happen...
8 months

Feedee regret

Morbidly A Beast:
Content Creators are Toxic for the parasocial aspect it sends mixed signals to people who probably don’t know better, but it really isn’t the creators fault but like it isn’t said enough I feel like. But I also think sex work is real work. Big brain.

BigBallBellyGirl:
Agreed! I'd say that content creation is absolutely valid entrepreneurship, and I certainly respect people who are able to make it profitable. I think the danger is when people assume everyone on the site wants to put out content and is somehow not participating appropriately in the community if they are not doing so. As fat people, we don't exist for others' gratification. We exist as whole humans, all by ourselves, with the right to be active here and in any other space we choose in whatever way we choose.


I think people, especially in America but in other places too, are much more selfish and much more... stupid, than that (i have a theory of stupidity but its gonna be too much to write it here), and i mean that litteraly. Not to offend, these are just the words that describe what im trying to say. From their point of view they see they cant find a partner the way they expect or desire to. They then indentify this as a problem. Instantly, the ideological narative of individualism kicks in and puts it as "Its either my fault or their fault" which might already be false, and of course entitled people almost always automatically assume that "its not my fault" without ever giving it proper thought. And then they are angry at other individuals, like being mad at someone will fix any problem.

Also, one question i have about what you write, what is "valid enterprenuership"? Is there a kind of enterprenuership that is not valid?
8 months

Feedee regret

HRHB15:
I think it’s crazy how many weak willed followers exist today to jump on a train and condemn a man you don’t even know because someone else dislikes what he says.

You also go on to make assumptions and categorize the man based on what you believe. You don’t know me.

But you will defend a group of people exploiting others for money in this community.

This is the state of the world today. Too many sheeple.


I didnt condem you. Im just saying youre wrong. If you accept that, you can then start trying to figure out how to become a better person. I wish for that.

Look, for example an other mistake i see you do, you communicate your points (weak willed followers exist today, i make assumtions about a person i dont now, and so on) but you dont provide, either an explenation of what you're talking about down to the specific, instead of generalizing, and you also provide no argumentation. Yes, i made assumtions about a person i dont know. That doesnt automatically mean that my assumtions are wrong! In your reply you didnt even said that im wrong! Which would be the usefull thing to do, because i would then know if i am right or wrong on my assumption. With what youve said so far i dont!
8 months

Feedee regret

HRHB15:
Yeah, these money whores usually end up with a lot of regrets. I’m honestly tired of encountering them.

Thats a bit like being mad at the minimum wage cashier for not doing his job fast enough, instead of the milionare who owns the store and employs only 1 cashier...

My point is... Youre barking up the wrong tree. You hate comodification but you dumb shit, not on the capitalist dynamics that are the cause of it, but some people who may simply try to survive.

Yes, its annoying to find what you need (and after that, what you desire) behind a pay wall. But thats the "free market capitalism" people like you (Im guessing) often cheerlead for!

Have some understanding for your fellow human beings, dont be such an egotistic person!
8 months

Why are so many discussions getting locked?

Morbidly A Beast:
If you look through the threads what happens is pretty obvious, and it’s not hard to figure out what occurs. Someone goes off the goop and says something insensitive they get called on it then rather than owning up to it and saying I messed up they double down and it spirals from there.


I just like to clown people I made a sarcastic mocking statement and a dude took that to go on a little dark age tik tok edit about how the west was falling nonsense. asking people to be decent human beings is to much sometimes


That, ironically, is a self fulfilling prophecy!! O.o
9 months