Old dude with thoughts on the community
SumoSized:
Oh I agree people really have no idea what they're getting themselves into when gaining that amount of weight, hell I question if I even know what I'm doing half the time. I'm more or less interested in what the median weight of feedees is and what the cut off is. I wonder if there is a specific cut off weight where people tend stop or if it has more of a gradual drop off. I also want to know if there's a consensus on an "ideal weight" for most people. Like beyond x weight too many issues start to arise so this would be the perfect cut off
Munchies:
From what I've seen, if you are thin starting out, 200 - 250 seems to be when most either stop or reverse course. This is the fattest they can get without negatively impacting their everyday lives. This number is smaller if you are short (160 - 180).
If you were chubby or "small fat," most stop in the 350 - 500 lbs range. This is around the size people experience moderate to major health issues.
SumoSized:
Damn that's concerning because I started off really skinny and I'm hoping to well exceed 250 lbs
Oh I agree people really have no idea what they're getting themselves into when gaining that amount of weight, hell I question if I even know what I'm doing half the time. I'm more or less interested in what the median weight of feedees is and what the cut off is. I wonder if there is a specific cut off weight where people tend stop or if it has more of a gradual drop off. I also want to know if there's a consensus on an "ideal weight" for most people. Like beyond x weight too many issues start to arise so this would be the perfect cut off
Munchies:
From what I've seen, if you are thin starting out, 200 - 250 seems to be when most either stop or reverse course. This is the fattest they can get without negatively impacting their everyday lives. This number is smaller if you are short (160 - 180).
If you were chubby or "small fat," most stop in the 350 - 500 lbs range. This is around the size people experience moderate to major health issues.
SumoSized:
Damn that's concerning because I started off really skinny and I'm hoping to well exceed 250 lbs
It's not a hard and fast thing. I know several people on this site who weigh 400, 500+ lbs and used to be skinny or in good shape. However, this came with sacrifices on their end. Unless you make an effort to keep up your fitness and flexibility, you won't be able to do as many of the things you did at 160 as you can at 300.
My partner used to weigh about 200 lbs and play water polo. Now, at 400 lbs, he'll laugh if you suggest such a thing.
10 months
Old dude with thoughts on the community
SumoSized:
Oh I agree people really have no idea what they're getting themselves into when gaining that amount of weight, hell I question if I even know what I'm doing half the time. I'm more or less interested in what the median weight of feedees is and what the cut off is. I wonder if there is a specific cut off weight where people tend stop or if it has more of a gradual drop off. I also want to know if there's a consensus on an "ideal weight" for most people. Like beyond x weight too many issues start to arise so this would be the perfect cut off
Oh I agree people really have no idea what they're getting themselves into when gaining that amount of weight, hell I question if I even know what I'm doing half the time. I'm more or less interested in what the median weight of feedees is and what the cut off is. I wonder if there is a specific cut off weight where people tend stop or if it has more of a gradual drop off. I also want to know if there's a consensus on an "ideal weight" for most people. Like beyond x weight too many issues start to arise so this would be the perfect cut off
From what I've seen, if you are thin starting out, 200 - 250 seems to be when most either stop or reverse course. This is the fattest they can get without negatively impacting their everyday lives. This number is smaller if you are short (160 - 180).
If you were chubby or "small fat," most stop in the 350 - 500 lbs range. This is around the size people experience moderate to major health issues.
10 months
Does anyone enjoy aging ?
This is hilarious. OP has an aging kink. This isn't an older people in kink space appreciation post.
10 months
Old dude with thoughts on the community
SumoSized:
I would actually be really interested to see a chart of the weight of all the people on this site who are actively gaining. And if the chart was updated year by year I wonder if it would trend upward as people gain, or if it would stagnate from extreme gainers/feedees deciding to maintain/lose weight and from new people joining the community. I guess really what I would want to know is what percentage of people who claim they want to be extremely obese bordering on/being immobile actually achieve that
I would actually be really interested to see a chart of the weight of all the people on this site who are actively gaining. And if the chart was updated year by year I wonder if it would trend upward as people gain, or if it would stagnate from extreme gainers/feedees deciding to maintain/lose weight and from new people joining the community. I guess really what I would want to know is what percentage of people who claim they want to be extremely obese bordering on/being immobile actually achieve that
I don't have the numbers, but based on the thousands of people I've spoken to over the years, I'd imagine that number to be quite low. There are several reasons:
1. Lack of resources
2. Lack of a feeder/caretaker
3. Responsibilities getting in the way
4. Fear of getting fat(ter)
5. Reality being drastically different from fantasy
I think that last one is the biggest reason most never become immobile. I've seen a lot of feedees start strong. They will eat as much as they can stand as often as possible. They eat high-calorie, low-nutrition slop, are as sedentary as possible, and do nothing but think about their fetish 24/7.
Suddenly, they start feeling bad all the time. Some start here. Some keep going.
When money starts getting tight, some stop, some pick up extra shifts for additional jobs, and some become content creators or e-begging.
Their health starts to decline. Most stop here. A lot of feedees either think they will avoid health issues or, at the very least, they won't be so bad. But when your body betrays you and (especially in America) those medical bills pimp slap you across the face, you reevaluate your life choices.
Mobility loss is the final hurdle that stops most people from becoming immobile. The constant pain, boredom, dwindling freedom, and feeling like a burden take a toll on people. Most settle for limited mobility or lose enough weight to regain it.
I've gotten a lot of flak over the years from people wanting to be immobile or at least extremely fat when I inject reality into their fantastical plans. Without fail, I'll see them lose the weight to reverse the damage they did or hit me up to get my advice.
Often without so much as an apology.
But hey? What can you do except ignore them?
10 months
Old dude with thoughts on the community
You make a lot of salient points, Food Enjoyer. It's a shame we are only now interacting, but oh well.
I hadn't considered the death feedist situation, but now that I have, I see that you have a point.
There aren't a lot of true death feedists out and about, but I've noticed an uptick in people flirting with the idea. I won't call these people suicidal, but I've noticed a sense of dispair.
To paraphrase one person I talked to about the situation, it's less about wanting to day and more about wanting to take the fetish to the upper limit without any regard to the consequences. Another person said something to the effect of "Life sucks, and I am going to die anyway. Might as well go out doing what I love."
Another thing I've noticed is that these people either do not stay in the community long or backpedal after the first serious health scare.
A lot of people will throw themselves into kink as a form of escapism. And that's all well and good up until it clashes with reality in ways you didn't sign up for.
I hadn't considered the death feedist situation, but now that I have, I see that you have a point.
There aren't a lot of true death feedists out and about, but I've noticed an uptick in people flirting with the idea. I won't call these people suicidal, but I've noticed a sense of dispair.
To paraphrase one person I talked to about the situation, it's less about wanting to day and more about wanting to take the fetish to the upper limit without any regard to the consequences. Another person said something to the effect of "Life sucks, and I am going to die anyway. Might as well go out doing what I love."
Another thing I've noticed is that these people either do not stay in the community long or backpedal after the first serious health scare.
A lot of people will throw themselves into kink as a form of escapism. And that's all well and good up until it clashes with reality in ways you didn't sign up for.
10 months
Any regrets for your current size
FatCat300:
Is anyone here glad about being extremely obese or immobile? I have always thought of what it would be like myself to weigh as much as 500, 600, or maybe even 1,000 lbs. I actually did a search online for if people are glad that they weigh 600 lbs but I actually get a lot of negative stuff. I even came access stuff from “My 600 Pound Life”.
Any regrets or no? How does it make you feel physically and/or emotionally?
Is anyone here glad about being extremely obese or immobile? I have always thought of what it would be like myself to weigh as much as 500, 600, or maybe even 1,000 lbs. I actually did a search online for if people are glad that they weigh 600 lbs but I actually get a lot of negative stuff. I even came access stuff from “My 600 Pound Life”.
Any regrets or no? How does it make you feel physically and/or emotionally?
You've asked this before
fantasyfeeder.com/forum/posts
10 months
My girlfriend keeps getting fatter
Bukefalas:
Man if he is attempting manipulation he's really bad at it, you are actually supposed to conceal your intentions in order for a manipulation to be successful in most techniques aside from guilt tripping someone (*hint hint*) and JohnT just went ahead and told her his intentions, his underlying motive and desire for her to be massive and how much he loves her being that fat. Now if you are saying he is lying by omission not telling her how much he does to make sure she feels comfortable and accommodated, John keep us posted on this fingers crossed that your girlfriend stays in the dark about you being considerate of her weight and doing things to make her life more comfortable and that she never figures out the accommodations a 500lb person requires despite her being 500lbs because you really are pulling the wool over her eyes there. I think you made some mistakes trying to pull off this con but if somehow she just completely forgets you telling her your motives, you might be able to pull it off and make her fat with her being none the wiser. And if it falls through and she realizes she has been manipulated and wants to leave you, just come clean and constantly remind her of all the things you do like make sure she gets dropped off close to the door because she struggles with mobility or that you look for restaurants that can accommodate her, and remind her why you are doing it, tell her no a wheelchair is so embarrassing, that way you could never be accused of manipulating her, you can just shame her and give her a deep sense of inadequacy fostering a sense of dependence on you because of a lack of self confidence. Munchies can I ask why you find his behavior to be manipulative?
Man if he is attempting manipulation he's really bad at it, you are actually supposed to conceal your intentions in order for a manipulation to be successful in most techniques aside from guilt tripping someone (*hint hint*) and JohnT just went ahead and told her his intentions, his underlying motive and desire for her to be massive and how much he loves her being that fat. Now if you are saying he is lying by omission not telling her how much he does to make sure she feels comfortable and accommodated, John keep us posted on this fingers crossed that your girlfriend stays in the dark about you being considerate of her weight and doing things to make her life more comfortable and that she never figures out the accommodations a 500lb person requires despite her being 500lbs because you really are pulling the wool over her eyes there. I think you made some mistakes trying to pull off this con but if somehow she just completely forgets you telling her your motives, you might be able to pull it off and make her fat with her being none the wiser. And if it falls through and she realizes she has been manipulated and wants to leave you, just come clean and constantly remind her of all the things you do like make sure she gets dropped off close to the door because she struggles with mobility or that you look for restaurants that can accommodate her, and remind her why you are doing it, tell her no a wheelchair is so embarrassing, that way you could never be accused of manipulating her, you can just shame her and give her a deep sense of inadequacy fostering a sense of dependence on you because of a lack of self confidence. Munchies can I ask why you find his behavior to be manipulative?
Honestly, I am geniunely worried about you if you cannot see what's going on.
It started off with her being unhappy with her weight. John says in the first sentance he kept underplaying her weight. Why? Because he had plans to make her as fat as possible.
His accomodating her size without her realizing it isn't him looking out for her needs. If it was, they would have had an open, honest conversation about his kink, her body goals, and if she wanted to indulge his kink. Instead, he is making things easy for her knowing she struggles to slim down and would take the path of least resistance. It's not that she wanted to be fat. He used her personality against her to get what he wanted.
And speaking of the path of least resistance, let's talk about her declining mobility. He talks about how he helped her with her mobility at first. Then when she got too fat to move around without a wheelchair, he convinced her to use the wheelchair. This means she was not happy with her waning mobility.
He should have had a conversation with her. Talked to her about her mobility goals and did whatever she decided. Instead, he convinced her to go the route he wanted for her.
All I have seen in his posts is a man systematically manipulating an insecure, weak woman into living out his fetish. I am a sadistic domme extreme feedee. I love torturing my partner and causing him pain. But I only do it with his ENTHUSIASTIC consent which he can revoke anytime.
I fattenened my partner to 500 lbs. It was too much for him. Instead of convincing him to power through and keep going, I helped him lose weight so he could be comfortable.
If John's partner was one of those feedees that enjoyed losing mobility, he wouldn't need to convince her to use the wheelchair. Have you seen those kinds of feedees? They are excited to be that fat. Turns them on. This woman is just quietly accepting her fate.
10 months
Old dude with thoughts on the community
I feel that you have missed the point I was trying to make. I am not saying that men do not face discrimination. I am saying that women are uniquely vulnerable to discrimination.
Legitimate concerns like the increasing commercialization of our fetish with the rise of Only Fans and the TikTok invasion a while back flattened into "All women are money-hungry gold diggers." "Don't give your money to internet strangers" flattened into "Never give a female feedee money because they are all scammers."
Things have gotten better in this regard, but it is still a prevalent thought. And it is a dangerous thought, too, because often, a specific flavor of men will publicly blast a woman for being a "scammer" only because she rejected his advances. This can severely damage that woman's reputation and open her up to harassment.
Thankfully, more people are asking questions and not taking these accusations at face value. But it happens all the same.
Legitimate concerns like the increasing commercialization of our fetish with the rise of Only Fans and the TikTok invasion a while back flattened into "All women are money-hungry gold diggers." "Don't give your money to internet strangers" flattened into "Never give a female feedee money because they are all scammers."
Things have gotten better in this regard, but it is still a prevalent thought. And it is a dangerous thought, too, because often, a specific flavor of men will publicly blast a woman for being a "scammer" only because she rejected his advances. This can severely damage that woman's reputation and open her up to harassment.
Thankfully, more people are asking questions and not taking these accusations at face value. But it happens all the same.
10 months
Old dude with thoughts on the community
Munchies:
I get it. However, you may be unaware of this as you aren't as active in the community these days, and many people place the blame entirely on women.
Too Tiny:
Honestly I have seen this as well. I've also seen it on gay gainer sites, namely Grommr and BiggerCity. The community as a whole has become intensely toxic to a point where younger people wonder if they're crazy or mentally ill for wanting to be fat. It gets depressing sometimes.
I member the multi-year saga of King Gluttony. His name was Nick. He made money by modeling for Hansi for a while, but started having more serious health issues stemming from weighing over 800 pounds. He ended up creating a YouTube channel called Help for Nick where he detailed his struggles and health issues as they happened. He got a book deal and while he didn't specifically demonize the community, he also didn't have much positive to say about, either. In the end he never got the weight loss surgery he needed and he abruptly deleted everything. There was no weight loss journey or recovery. I haven't looked him up lately, but he did another video and photo set immediately after deleting his fundraiser stuff, then he disappeared entirely. I honestly don't know if he really wanted surgery. He would have had to lose weight to be approved, and he made it clear that he was a massive food addict and never did anything to fight it. He had such potential for a fell good story, and even a lot of money for him. He really just didn't want it badly enough.
On the opposite side, there were tons of comments on his YouTube begging him not to lose weight and calling him a traitor and such. There was a great deal of hostility and anger that he would want to lose weight. People were so entitled that they felt betrayed by a huge dude, completely kink free, would have the audacity to want to live a normal independent life. Fat fetishism, at it's absolute worst, is sociopaths who feed on the misery and dependence of others. Those were the ones Nick found himself surrounded by almost exclusively. It would make sense if that pressure was part of why he disappeared into obscurity despite having everything going for him.
Another one I remember was Luke, SuperXLChubboy. He was an extreme gainer beyond Nick. He entered the scene at about 635 or so. Dude was an instant star and was one of the first guys to popularize Hansi's Superchubs. Over time he gained a lot, peaking at around 1,060 lbs. He was really massive. At one point he was trying to raise money for WLS, I think before Hansi. He only raised $200. He had news articles and publicity, too. But his story wasn't compelling or dramatic enough for anyone to care. He was just a guy addicted to food who brought this on himself. Like so many others the modeling came as an income source. He eventually lost weight and stabilized at about 700. He would only rarely make content, and eventually just stopped. I have no idea if he continued.
I don't think he was in the recieving end of as much hate as Nick was, but I'm sure he got his share. Luke was far less assessable (and Canadian) and wasn't known to engage with the community much. He wasn't into it and didn't exploit it like he could have, so his socials were harder to find. Last I looked a couple years ago he hadn't been on in over a year.
So no, the toxicity isn't limited to female gainers. Hell, Antonio just started losing weight, too. Lots of obnoxious RIP comments there.
I get it. However, you may be unaware of this as you aren't as active in the community these days, and many people place the blame entirely on women.
Too Tiny:
Honestly I have seen this as well. I've also seen it on gay gainer sites, namely Grommr and BiggerCity. The community as a whole has become intensely toxic to a point where younger people wonder if they're crazy or mentally ill for wanting to be fat. It gets depressing sometimes.
I member the multi-year saga of King Gluttony. His name was Nick. He made money by modeling for Hansi for a while, but started having more serious health issues stemming from weighing over 800 pounds. He ended up creating a YouTube channel called Help for Nick where he detailed his struggles and health issues as they happened. He got a book deal and while he didn't specifically demonize the community, he also didn't have much positive to say about, either. In the end he never got the weight loss surgery he needed and he abruptly deleted everything. There was no weight loss journey or recovery. I haven't looked him up lately, but he did another video and photo set immediately after deleting his fundraiser stuff, then he disappeared entirely. I honestly don't know if he really wanted surgery. He would have had to lose weight to be approved, and he made it clear that he was a massive food addict and never did anything to fight it. He had such potential for a fell good story, and even a lot of money for him. He really just didn't want it badly enough.
On the opposite side, there were tons of comments on his YouTube begging him not to lose weight and calling him a traitor and such. There was a great deal of hostility and anger that he would want to lose weight. People were so entitled that they felt betrayed by a huge dude, completely kink free, would have the audacity to want to live a normal independent life. Fat fetishism, at it's absolute worst, is sociopaths who feed on the misery and dependence of others. Those were the ones Nick found himself surrounded by almost exclusively. It would make sense if that pressure was part of why he disappeared into obscurity despite having everything going for him.
Another one I remember was Luke, SuperXLChubboy. He was an extreme gainer beyond Nick. He entered the scene at about 635 or so. Dude was an instant star and was one of the first guys to popularize Hansi's Superchubs. Over time he gained a lot, peaking at around 1,060 lbs. He was really massive. At one point he was trying to raise money for WLS, I think before Hansi. He only raised $200. He had news articles and publicity, too. But his story wasn't compelling or dramatic enough for anyone to care. He was just a guy addicted to food who brought this on himself. Like so many others the modeling came as an income source. He eventually lost weight and stabilized at about 700. He would only rarely make content, and eventually just stopped. I have no idea if he continued.
I don't think he was in the recieving end of as much hate as Nick was, but I'm sure he got his share. Luke was far less assessable (and Canadian) and wasn't known to engage with the community much. He wasn't into it and didn't exploit it like he could have, so his socials were harder to find. Last I looked a couple years ago he hadn't been on in over a year.
So no, the toxicity isn't limited to female gainers. Hell, Antonio just started losing weight, too. Lots of obnoxious RIP comments there.
Gonna make a separate post because this one has a lot of words.
10 months
Seeing the cute slim guy/girl blow up
Fatforfun:
Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.
Munchies:
You will note that I am painting in broad strokes.
That said, I took a glace at your story and um ...
Are you sure you want me to explore the themes therein.
Because I can. I will be fair about it, but are you really sure you want me to do that?
Fatforfun:
I'm not looking for conflict, Munchies. Like I said, in general I agree with you. I just thought you might like to see an exception.
Munchies:
I'm not looking for conflict either. If I was, you'd have it already.
That said, having read what you wrote, I am not seeing any so-called exceptions. And while I am open to discussing it with you in a non-hostile way, I am pretty sure my thoughts will offend you.
Fatforfun:
[Maybe I misunderstood what you wrote. I thought that you were saying that revenges stories always end with the person who gets fat being rejected by society. My story has the person who got fat becoming a better person and accepted for that. That's the exception that I mean.]
Munchies, I agree with you in general about revenge stories. But there are exceptions. See my story Fat Justice. Hope you like it.
Munchies:
You will note that I am painting in broad strokes.
That said, I took a glace at your story and um ...
Are you sure you want me to explore the themes therein.
Because I can. I will be fair about it, but are you really sure you want me to do that?
Fatforfun:
I'm not looking for conflict, Munchies. Like I said, in general I agree with you. I just thought you might like to see an exception.
Munchies:
I'm not looking for conflict either. If I was, you'd have it already.
That said, having read what you wrote, I am not seeing any so-called exceptions. And while I am open to discussing it with you in a non-hostile way, I am pretty sure my thoughts will offend you.
Fatforfun:
[Maybe I misunderstood what you wrote. I thought that you were saying that revenges stories always end with the person who gets fat being rejected by society. My story has the person who got fat becoming a better person and accepted for that. That's the exception that I mean.]
Yeah, you did misunderstand. I said revenge weight gain stories have a typical beat, but variations exist. Your story is usual for the genre, with some mild variations. This is common when you are writing in any genre.
An exception would be something drastic that you never really see. For example, the person exacting revenge feels guilty and turns himself in, the revenge victim escapes, never to be seen again, or the person getting revenge is the villain, not the story's hero.
After all, what is a revenge weight gain story if not a power fantasy?
10 months
