Avocado based deserts like chocolate mousse and cakes work really well. But re definitively subcutaneous I don't have enough evidence as my wife was only vegan for the first 2months of.our marriage. When pregnancy kicked in, she suddenly craved meat and mustard and this is when she really started to gain.

She softened up a lot using advocados with cacao or coconut I'm a lot of confections. And it was already going to her hips before we managed to.conceive.

I agree with the idea of finding someone who is in to a more.fit body type in their partner as a good motivation.

Another thing I've found is to make sure your partner has friends who even if not gainer, are far and happy. My wife and I and some of our oldest joint friends love similarly, where post pregnancy both female partners are a lot larger, enjoy dining out and have their own bubble. This has the effect that her social life gives her both fraternal support and encourages her plushness without it just being me where it comes from.

A feedee with a bunch of fat, body positive friends means that you're not there for all of the eating that contributes to their body and it gives them the confidence that comes.from being in a group.

It's a difficult line to tread. An ex put on 70ishlbs in the first 2 years then discovered my preferences when meeting a previous gf.

My now wife was 107lbs when we met and the moment she softened I said bluntly that I really liked.her soft tummy. Now she's over 200lbs and although not 100% happy with it, she is very very confident and despite still having some reservations, especially when meeting old friends who haven't seen her in 100+lbs, she knows that she has zero risk of me straying as the way she has naturally changed over the years has only.resulted in me finding her more and more attractive physically.

Honesty at all stages, when asked, helps. Ie if you think she's great now in many ways, make sure she knows, if she gains and you like it, also.make sure she knows. It you find your thoughts changing toward a more negative way, meditate on it to figure out why and if she can help it, maybe, let her know.

Diplomatic honesty.

My initial thought is she may not care which way you go with this, but may be concerned that if she gains and you don't then she will be vunerable.

I've stayed fit and my better half has gained a lot in the last 4 years and even though I've been 100% honest and we're married and have 2 wonderful children together the fact that I have a much more typically advertised physique and she is very far from the 110lbs dancer I first dated, makes her feel a little uncomfortable.

It's a hard one as by published standards if one partners gains (I don't like the term letting go as it takes some effort gaining), and the other doesn't, the assumed outcome is that the non gaining partner retains a supposed advantage in the instance of a breakup.

Sadly getting fat is seen as removing the likelyhood of finding a future partner and this in turn can be abused by the non gaining partner down the line as there is a fear of "now you're fat, who will have you?!"

This statent although untrue is a trope that has been so ingrained in modern narratives that it's hard to shake.

My wife gained naturally following marriage and pregnancy as she felt comfortable to do so and clearly got positive feedback (I can't leave her alone, literally she has become irresistible physically and it only intensifies the more she relaxes in to her natural state).

With this in mind, what your GF may be looking for is some kind of bankable commitment from you. To her that's your gain, but your gain may be substituted by another clear commitment, whether marriage or a tattoo or a joint lease/mortgage.

The caveat being she might also prefer a larger partner and is simply looking for you to gain too. Aesthetic preferences aren't always easy to express. I have plenty of friends who post college nudged their partner to start dressing more adult without being blatant and that too is just an aesthetic preference.

Throwback!

From what I can gather this comes down to 3 things that are frequently spoken about in these forums:

1: Subcutaneous vs Visceral fat. A "ball belly" is mostly fat around the organs which is defined as visceral. Visceral fat does correlate with more health issues in high quantities including type 2 diabetes. However gaining more visceral fat over subcutaneous can be affected by diet there is also another event to consider:

2. Genetics. Genetics affects fat distribution a lot. Age and hormonal balance also affect this. Cortisol is correlated with visceral fat and it also seems that genetic predispositions make it more or less likely for you to have different fat distributions. What also seem common in men is that higher androgenic hormones (testosterones) increase visceral fat and again, testosterone in many individuals is affected by diet and exercise, particularly anaerobic exercise. However you must consider that hormone levels "correct themselves" ie the body tries to make what it considers a balanced level which again points to genetics. This can be affected by diet and supplementation and diet leads on to point 3.

3. Collagen. A long apron belly (pannus) can be caused by a mix of subcutaneous fat and loose skin. Looser skin is correlated with collagen levels which again are affected by genetics, age and diet and to an extent damage due to hydration. For the latter.point just with any skin, long term elasticity [what many marketeers refer to as tightness] can be improved by a good balanced diet and by the use of moisturizing creams on a regular basis. Further to this good blood flow from a well functioning vascular system helps to get those nutrient to where they are needed, and smoking doesn't help this.

With all these in mind, as much as certain exercises can help with vascular health and with increasing testosterone (which will likely aid with a more androgenic form), there are many many factors to why gainers end up shaped as they are and to state the obvious, feedism isn't something approached in life sciences often.

Finally i would note that there is a bit of research to suggest jogging increases the sagging of adipose pockets (breasts etc) due to physical stresses on the skin through cyclic loading.

Read up on the forums at what other gainers have had luck with for visceral fat vs subcutaneous fat (there's a lot re heavy cream).

Good luck with with achieving the body you want

I have a sinking feeling you're right. In calderdale were still at T2, but my office is in THE like the rest of manc and cases are still rising.

FF Zoom drinks?

Amen to that!

Not 100% sure how extreme, but the very soft feeling of a woman on top who's lost 40-50lbs quite quickly is amazing.