Stockylove:
I'm writing this topic because, maybe I'm wrong but....
I feel like there are a lot of asexual people in the gainer community, and people who have kinks on their bellies and fat. Think maybe I'm a little asexual myself or on a spectrum that's close to it. Finally, if my observations are accurate and not biased, do you think you know what would explain this?

Excessive food/energy intake leads to the expansion of adipose tissues, including both increased numbers of fat cells, i.e., adipogenesis, and increased size of individual adipocytes (hypertrophy).

In adults, fat cell number is constant over time in spite of a large turnover (about 10% of the fat cells per year) when body weight is stable. A decrease in body weight only changes fat cell size (becoming smaller), whereas an increase in body weight causes elevation of both fat cell size and number in adults.

The causative role of obesity in lipotoxicity is controversial. Some researchers claim that obesity has protective effects against lipotoxicity as it results in extra adipose tissue in which excess lipids can be stored.

MitchHedberg:
My personal theory is that when you combine weight gain with "healthy" behaviors like exercise, our bodies are move in the direction of adipogenesis over fat cell hypertorphy. However, I'm willing to bet that it's mostly determined by genetics and that you're only able to influence things to a certain degree.

My advice is to take things one day at a time. Don't worry about number goals. Those are fickle and not realistic for everyone. Gain until it's no longer comfortable for you to do so—whatever that might look like.

Miss Tiramisu:
Thank you for the reality check! I know the number goals can be a little unrealistic unless you are already close to your goal too.
I supposed that I should have clarified that by that time I do expect to lose some mobility. I just dont want to be immobile. I definitely should have said that before. Im still new at this, so I just need to get my terminology down.

MitchHedberg:
A while back I read some posts from a user on here who confessed to "ruining men" by getting them addicted to the fattening lifestyle so much that it they become essentially useless and lose their partners,jobs, etc.

It was very dark but also quite a hot read and I'm wondering if anyone knows who that user was or where I can find those posts?

Angelgluttony:
Am I the only one that feels they can’t be too open with their kink? Everyone has their own likings when it comes to kinks but I feel the most judged when I talk about extreme obesity. Discord : blubberbabe

English Feeder:
Viewing my partner over a period of time and weight gain. I would say staying as physically active as possible you can retain good mobility and health. But eventually size, weight, age and wear and tear of carrying excess weight will eventually take its toll. That is my experience of how much she has changed over a period of time. I remember her being able to walk miles.
But now she can barely stand and can only take a few steps. She uses a wheelchair now. Immobility is likely very soon.

Munchies:
How big is she, if you don't mind my asking?

English Feeder:
She has been very ill in hospital so has lost weight. She is probably around 475 at 5'2" and in her late 60's

Plushie:
Are you only interested in feeder/feedee for getting off or do you try creating an actual relationships with these individuals?

Like, when talking to a feedee or a feeder is it only to talk with them to like get off or do you try and pursue an actual long lasting romantic relationship with them?

Is it just for the fetish or is the fetish a lifestyle?

I've seen many feedees talk about their feeder as just a feeder and not so much as a committed romantic partner... and it sort of puts me off. Like I completely understand having an agreement but agreements is all I seem to see. Like, don't get me wrong I love me a good arrangement... but there doesn't seem to be like any romantic aspect to these agreements and its all sexual.
I don't really see many willing to go out and about with these... I guess I will call "play" partners for the lack of a better word.

It seems to me like a lot of feeders seem too embarrassed to ever actually be seen with a fat partner, in case like friends or family see them out or something.

(sorry if all jumbled and incoherent. or like misspelling and poor grammar. the dyslexia is asking up today lol lol)

Arame:
No, this is an excellent question in my opinion.

The only thing I respectfully disagree with is that the feeders are only in it for an arrangement. Is see waaaay more feedies/gainers, usually the females trying to use feeders, usually the males as tricks and simps. But I can see it from your perspective too. Yes, there’s still a lot feeders, particularly males that still lie about liking big women let alone feederism cause of the way society views big women.

Now, to answer your question, I’m absolutely here to find my bride. Everyone that knows me, knows that I like big women. All the women my area on this website seem to be taken though haha.

English Feeder:
Viewing my partner over a period of time and weight gain. I would say staying as physically active as possible you can retain good mobility and health. But eventually size, weight, age and wear and tear of carrying excess weight will eventually take its toll. That is my experience of how much she has changed over a period of time. I remember her being able to walk miles.
But now she can barely stand and can only take a few steps. She uses a wheelchair now. Immobility is likely very soon.

Bigwideland:
One of the reasons I am looking into this is that I was about 16 stone at 15 and about 25 stone at about 22. So may have good initial level of fat cell to expand. I wonder if any equations exist to estimate the weight you could gain with out toxic effects. Clearly this would be crude but interesting.

I did peak at about 580 about 9 years ago, and was still okay, mild blood pressure but not metabolism issues. But I am older now so my
plan of 600 maybe unrealistic.

Bigwideland:
I have been reading up on the development of fat cells. Most articles conclude that you can increase the number of fat cells to about 23 or 24 but most in adolescents year's. These tend to be cells under the skin. These can increase is size without much metabolic risk.

Once you are over 25 your fat cell counts are mainly unchanged. So you can gain till you Max out your cell capacity with low metabolic issues. After that your increase in weight is in your organs like your liver ect. This can lead to diabetes and so on.

So that explains to some degree how some people get to huge size as adults they developed more cells as teenagers.

Do we have any expert's that can input on this.

And how, if true can you know you maxed out your fat cells capacity?

Munchies:
So, fat cells can increase until puberty. Once you are done with that, your fat cell count stabilizes. This doesn't mean they stay with you forever. Fat cells die, but your body replenishes them.

Fat cells have a max capacity, but that looks different in different people. Some have a low capacity. Others have a higher capacity. Either way, when that happens, you experience lipotoxicity. Your fat cells have no more room, so your body will store it in other areas like your muscles and organs.

This will make you very sick. Your body will start breaking down and it's all downhill from here.

I remember a video a male feedee posted many years ago. He was quite large and wanted to be 700 lbs. The video was a celebration of his gains and his plans for the future. He looks a little yellow and his breathing is weird. The comments tell a very sad follow up.

He died not long after. The sumptoms sound very similar to lipotoxicity. He reached his hard limit and decided to go past it. If I can find the video, I'll post it later.

FAMGM:
Are you aware of whether the eventual replenishment if fat cells occurs with the same limits?

Ie, would a person in a state of lipotoxicity do no more than replace those already lost, thus remaining with no greater capacity?