Heavy cream latte?

Adanac:
I order “Breve lattes” from Starbucks every day which are made from half and half. How are you ordering your heavy cream lattes? I am often with colleagues and as hot as it would be, I simply can’t order heavy cream drinks in front of them. Nobody really knows what breve is so I get away with it when it’s half and half.


I go alone to the university Starbucks which is always very busy with people who I don’t know, so no one really pays attention to my order. Today was my first time getting one, and I ordered it as I normally would a latte but just asked them to substitute the milk with heavy cream. Since I get 10+ pumps of syrup for the taste (Starbucks coffee does not taste good to me without being drowned in syrup), the cream is not the weirdest part of my order anyway.

Lots of people around here get it for keto so the general assumption if someone orders it is just that they’re trying to go on a diet that is doomed to fail because they don’t know math, but I don’t want to try to claim I’m on keto when everyone knows I eat nothing but junk, so if anyone tried to confront me about it once I have gained some more I’d tell them I just like the creamier texture. My current weight is still low enough that I can just say I am trying to get extra calories because I’m recovering from an eating disorder and struggle to eat enough normal food to maintain my weight, which is technically true anyway.
5 years

Psych meds

My ADHD meds have weight loss as one of their usual side effects, but by pairing them with an appetite stimulant, they’ve actually helped me gain by allowing me to focus on eating when I sit down for a meal and not get distracted doing other things. I used to always get distracted after only eating a few bites even if I was hungry, and then by the time I remembered I had food an hour or two later, it was cold and gross and inedible. Now, I can eat my whole meal, or at least most of it.

I haven’t used anti-depressants myself because I do not have depression, but I’ve never seen a discussion about them in which at least one person didn’t chime in to complain about having become fat because of the medicine.
5 years

Overcoming a high metabolism

chubby1258:
For some reason I don't have a sense of smell nor of taste so food aways was a boring task to execute everyday.

becomingoverweight:
I know someone else without a sense of smell.

chubby1258:
There's no real doctors in my area, but I've been to 2 doctors and one otorhinolaryngologist and they all said "Hum I don't know and it's not a priority so we'll not try anything further".


Medical issues that make food unenjoyable certainly make it much tougher to gain. I have the opposite problem but with the same ultimate effect- I’m hypersensitive to taste, smell, and texture and so the majority of foods are just unbearably disgusting and overwhelming to me to the point of causing me to become severely nauseous or experience sensory overload and panic, sometimes even just by being in the same room as them if they stink bad enough, and so I mainly have to stick to sweet or bland things which, even then, I don’t enjoy much. I actually originally got into feedism because I was desperate to find a quick and effective way to gain weight to avoid hospitalization, and then realized I actually liked gaining and wanted to gain more once I got back into the safe weight range! It’s even helped me expand which foods I can tolerate a little bit, albeit not by much. Probably somewhat unusual for this site, but my doctor was delighted when I came and weighed in at 30 pounds heavier than my last visit recently. Best of luck with your future gains, you can do it!
5 years

Heavy cream latte?

becomingoverweight:
I decided to try to figure this out again and I think I found a viable method. So venti drinks have 3 fluid ounces of espresso in them. The rest of the composition varies from hot and cold. Hot lattes have 2% milk and milk foam. This milk foam takes up valuable space and lowers how much milk is in the final product. For iced lattes, it's milk and ice. The ice plays a similar role. We need to know how many ounces of milk are in the lattes so we can determine how much heavy cream it'd be replaced with. So how can we find out how many ounces of milk are in these drinks given that the amount of milk isn't explicitly listed? Sodium.

Espresso has no sodium(or Starbucks just doesn't count it, I'm not an espresso expert) but 2% milk does. Since the only ingredients are espresso, milk, and/or ice, the sodium can only come from the 2% milk! Using this we find the hot venti latte has 15.238 oz. of milk and the iced latte has 11.082 oz. of milk. As we can see, milk foam wastes 20-15.238-3=1.762 oz. and ice wastes 24-11.082-3=9.918 oz.

If we get rid of these losses by asking for no foam or ice(might cost extra), the hot variant has 17 oz. of milk and the cold one has 21 oz. Calorie-wise, cold wins. If the milk is replaced with heavy cream, it has 2155 calories. Definitely an obesogenic drink. The hot variant would have 1745 calories. The optimized variants would have 1564(hot) and 1137(cold) calories.

The grande variant of a no ice iced latte has 1437 calories of heavy cream.


Thank you for the information, it’s very helpful! I’ll definitely be trying this. Unfortunately, I can’t stand cold coffee, so I’ll have to get hot, but with the large amount of extra syrup I usually get added to it, even the hot latte ought to come to around 2454 calories.

Today I got a grande to test out if I liked the taste and could keep it down, and I definitely can. It tastes exactly like a whole milk latte, which I wasn’t expecting, but am happy with. Tomorrow I’ll get the venti!

With my current schedule, I ought to be able to do this 2 or 3 times a week and can keep going until my coffee budget runs out. If I get coffee three times a week and/or can manage to eat even just 300 calories per day over my weight maintenance requirement in my non-coffee diet, I should be able to gain 2 or more pounds per week. A lot of people buy their coffee drinks with heavy cream here for keto, not realizing how many calories there really are in them, so no one will suspect a thing. I’ll post an update if it works. Here’s hoping for at least 10 new pounds!
5 years

Heavy cream latte?

I heard recently that you can order a latte at Starbucks with heavy cream and it has quite a lot of calories. I think this might be a good way to gain when on a tight schedule without time for stuffing and to try heavy cream discreetly without people noticing it in the fridge, but I keep finding conflicting information when I try to figure out how much cream/milk is in a latte. Does anyone know how much heavy cream is in a venti Starbucks latte, and/or how many total calories such a drink would have? If it’s more than 1000 calories I think it would be worth the money, but I don’t want to spend Starbucks prices if it is just a 600 calorie drink or something since they’re expensive. Also, has anyone here tried drinking them? Do they work well?
5 years

Overcoming a high metabolism

I’ve always had both a high metabolism and a low appetite. Like, extremely low appetite. I finally managed to gain about 30 pounds by intermittent periods of eating ~3000 calories a day followed by periods when I’d track my calories to be sure I ate enough to maintain my weight but not push myself too hard. After what I’d estimate to be about a total of 5 weeks intentional stuffing and 6 weeks watching to be sure I didn’t go below my calorie requirement and going over it whenever I felt like it, but just not pushing myself, I have gotten up to 130 pounds which is still pretty skinny but a big gain from my previous weight. I was worried I wouldn’t be able to maintain it when busy with school, but I guess I must have crashed my metabolism somewhat because a few days of severe undereating due to school stress did not cause me to lose any weight, whereas in the past I used to lose significant amounts of weight any time I relapsed. I haven’t been active much here since I have not been actively gaining, but I do plan to start again once I have more time.

As for foods, I loaded up on junk food, bread, juice, and egg nog. Egg nog isn’t available anymore here, but the “damage” was done! Worth noting is that it’s far healthier to gain on a low sugar, high fat diet, but I do not like low sugar food enough to overeat it, or even to meet my maintenance requirement with it, and so I decided the health risks would be worth it.
5 years

When do people notice?

VulnerableVulpine:
Oh, ordering meds from Canada is decidedly legal gray area, for sure, but my impression (not having ever done it, and not being at all a lawyer) is that it's not highly penalized or enforced if it's not, like, Drugs drugs. But it's definitely less legally dangerous than the other thing I use that happens to stimulate appetite, which is weed lol

I'll def have to look into it for myself. Having to take it four times a day, instead of one, would be a downside, though, especially since one of the other meds I'm on is for ADHD lol


Oh, me too, I’m on Ritalin for ADHD which is the medicine that messes up my appetite, so the Periactin definitely helps with that specifically. The good news is that you don’t have to take every dose for Periactin to work, it doesn’t cause a withdrawal or anything, at least not for me. It just doesn’t do anything at all when you don’t take it, so if you miss a dose the only problem that causes is that you won’t have the appetite enhancing effects until you take it again. Usually I take it two or three times a day because four is just too much for me to keep track of even though it’s what I’m supposed to take, but it’s easier to remember on days when I’m trying to meet a high calorie goal because then I get frustrated with my low appetite and go “If only there was some way to increase my appetite- oh yeah I have appetite stimulants.”
5 years

Cutting the brakes?

I know some people here have spoken about how once you start gaining, it can be difficult to stop even if you try. Is it possible to do things that would make that point come faster, or is it something that can only happen naturally over time from extended periods of overeating or from aging?

Gaining weight is exciting for me but right now it is still a chore to eat enough to accomplish it. I’d be satisfied with becoming what is referred to here as a “letting-goer,” and just be able to gain weight by eating whatever I want. What I really wish to become someday, though, is a person who not only can gain weight without trying, but who cannot help but gain more and more weight even when trying desperately to lose it. I want to hit a point where I can never be thin again no matter what I do. I want to change my habits and/or metabolism so completely and irreversibly that once I reach my goal weight and try to stop, I just keep gaining anyway and find that all my weight loss efforts end in failure even though it used to be so easy to lose weight.
5 years

When do people notice?

VulnerableVulpine:
I wonder if you could get Periactin online? Ordering meds from Canada is a time-honored American tradition lol, and it looks like it's OTC there.

I'd be curious to hear more about it. I'm prescribed Remeron, which helps with the appetite loss and sweating I get from other meds, but not "able to eat three meals a day" or "not soaking wet every night" kind of helping, and anything more than the minimum dose makes me achy and depressed.


I doubt Periactin would help at all with sweating, but I definitely think it would be helpful for appetite enhancement. I still can’t eat huge meals with it, but I can eat three normal sized meals, plus one or two small stuffings with easier to eat things like junk food or liquid. The one drawback of I have noticed is it lasts a short time so I have to take one every few hours, and it is hard to remember so I usually don’t take all 4 pills in a day like I am supposed to. These are the results I’ve gotten while having a lifelong low appetite, eating disorder, and other medicine that decreases appetite, so it’s not like I had a good appetite already.

If you do some digging online you can find reviews for it. Since it’s prescribed for things other than appetite, too, you can find both reviews from people who were trying to gain weight with it, and people who were taking it for a different reason and packed on the pounds anyway, which they’re usually pretty unhappy about.

It is OTC in Canada, but wouldn’t it be illegal to order it from there when it is prescription only in the US? I don’t want to get in trouble. If it wouldn’t cause any legal issues though it would definitely be an option for me.
5 years

Whole week of stuffing

I’ve been gaining for about a month and a half now and have put on about 15 pounds. It’s been pretty slow most of the time, because of my low capacity, but this week I’m speeding things up: I decided to force myself to eat a minimum of enough food to average at 3000 calories a day. Since I don’t have much time every day I’ve achieved this by eating more on days when I have a lot of free time, so that my weekly average stays up even after a day of eating less. One day I ate 4252 calories! My current average is 3271 a day and I have gained 3 pounds since Sunday, from 125 to 128. It’s actually a bigger gain than I was expecting, I thought I’d gain only about 3 pounds all week. I’m not about to slow down now, though, I can’t wait to see how much I will have gained by the end of the week. I’m already starting to feel my clothes get tighter, and my belly is starting to get bigger a little jiggly, even though I’m still pretty thin! I didn’t expect it to get jiggly so soon but I’m very happy it has. I can feel it jiggle slightly when I walk and it pokes out of the bottom of some of my smaller shirts just a tiny bit.

If anyone has tips for making the gain go even faster or increasing stomach capacity I’d love to hear but mainly I just want to share what I’ve accomplished so far.

If I can sustain this amount of eating for longer than one week without getting sick then I might do another week after this week is over! If I do I want to increase my goal average to 3500, maybe push the goal up by 500 daily calories every week until I burn out, and then try to maintain until I feel up to stuffing again.
5 years