OMG, after looking at the 3 of you using PM, it looks like very large, very feminine breasts. I've been doing it for only 2 months and only using 160 mg a day, so maybe I won't get the same results, but I can see my breasts changing from moobs to a more feminine shape. What changes did you notice first? Mine seem to hang a little lower, seem to be more pointy, and seem to gone out to the sides a little more.
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aloicious:
yeah, ainterol brand pueraria mirifica is no joke. I started taking this stuff a few years ago to bring back sensitivity to my nipples and upon finding that it started to work, i upped my dose about 4 times. After a few months I noticed my shirts and pants were starting to fit differently, and my nipples were becoming heavy, engorged and super tender.. The gainer in me was super turned on and I would keep it up for at least another year and a half. My nipples and areola went from the size of a dime to the size of a pencil eraser surounded by just over 2 inches of swollen and tender areola. I had a small C cup at my biggest size. Last august, i decided to stop though as my body was looking undeniably feminine and people were really starting to stare. This was humiliating and kinda hot, but as someone who identifies as a male, I ultimately didnt want to go this far with it. Let me know if yall want to see, I have plenty of pics and vids.
chubby1258:
So it seems to really works despite some doctors criticizing the lack of studies. What was your dosage and how long did it takes for you to notice any change in breast size?
I'm pretty sure now that I identify as a woman and PM is a little first step to see if I'm alright with it
I see your pictures, some with extremely pointed feminine breasts, some with manboobs, and some relatively flat. What is the timeline for these in relationship to taking PM? Do you have videos to post?
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If he has been with you, and you were big to start with, it is a good chance he is an FA, or doesn't care. You can always test him out by saying something like, "My belly sure is getting bigger, maybe I should think about a diet." See if he agrees, argues, or says nothing.
5 years
johnxyz:
I think PM is one of the stronger photo-estrogen sources. My doctor put me on anti-androgens for blood pressure. I figured I must have been close to the point where estrogen would dominate, so I am taking 180mg of PM a day. I've been doing it for almost 2 months. My breasts have become much more feminine shaped, and I get all kids of sensations in my breasts and nipples. So, as long as you don't have too much testosterone, you should see some changes. Keep us posted.
chubby1258:
I'm still 20 years old and I can guess I have a lot of testosterone because of various physical and physiological factors, that's why I'm taking 1000mg per day. Fun fact when I told my girlfriend about all of this, she decided to take it herself to try and firm her breast, she takes 500mg a day.
Estrogen may not do much good if you have a lot of testosterone in your system. Normally a person reduces their male hormones when they take female. Also, don't forget that there are other side effects, such as libido loss, etc. Your girlfriend doesn't mind you growing breasts? A woman taking more estrogen may or may not have more breast growth. Also, it is best to have a doctor check things out.
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I think PM is one of the stronger photo-estrogen sources. My doctor put me on anti-androgens for blood pressure. I figured I must have been close to the point where estrogen would dominate, so I am taking 180mg of PM a day. I've been doing it for almost 2 months. My breasts have become much more feminine shaped, and I get all kids of sensations in my breasts and nipples. So, as long as you don't have too much testosterone, you should see some changes. Keep us posted.
5 years
I'm taking only two 80mg pills a day. However, my doctor has me on Spiro and Minoxodil for blood pressure. While I had no changes with just the blood pressure medicine, my breasts have changed from manboobs to female shaped breasts in just about 6-7 weeks with PM. Whether they grow larger is still to be seen. The blood pressure medicine took care of my erections, so that was not a concern taking the PM.
5 years
chubby1258:
If this PM doesn't do much, I'll give it a try. I really don't want to radically change my body anyway.
It is an estrogen. Without androgen blockers it probably won't do much. With androgen blockers, it will likely affect you.
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Pueraria Mirifica
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johnxyz:
Remember, you will lose your erections and your manhood will shrink. Also remember, if it is strong enough to give your breasts, it will be strong enough to cause side effects. If you take something that claims to avoid side effects, it will not be strong enough for breasts. As someone else pointed out, you need to take both estrogen and anti-androgens for anything to happen.
chubby1258:
I do not want a full-on transition.
Does this loss of manhood also apply to phytogen or only estrogen?
If it is strong enough to grow breasts, it is strong enough to cause shrinkage. Most phytogens don't do much anyway, except maybe PM when taken with strong anti-androgens.
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Remember, you will lose your erections and your manhood will shrink. Also remember, if it is strong enough to give your breasts, it will be strong enough to cause side effects. If you take something that claims to avoid side effects, it will not be strong enough for breasts. As someone else pointed out, you need to take both estrogen and anti-androgens for anything to happen.
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