FatDave:
One of the things I love doing is finding examples of those on the bigger side who are not your typical "overweight people."

Sumo wrestling, for example. They're big people, but they're athletic, put in work to get their bodies to function a certain way, and just so happen to be overweight by standard definitions.

What are some ways you practice fat empowerment?

Munchies:
What you are talking about is body composition. These people *are* fat, but they are also muscular.

I'm clinically overweight, but that's due to being muscular. As such, I look like I should be lighter than I really am.

I am curious about the term "fat empowerment". What do you mean by that?

Finickyfeedee:
I don’t think a safe space for women, femmes, nonbinary and GNC people can reasonably exclude men because many people in those categories are also men or are targeted for harassment due to falsely perceived proximity to manhood. GNC and femme men and nonbinary people whose identities may partially or fully include manhood (bi-gender, gender-fluid, etc), as well as people who aren’t men at all but present masculine or don’t pass as cis women regardless of how they present are not safe in a space that bans men, if they can even access it at all. Furthermore, even just banning cis gender-conforming men specifically (how would this be verified?) still feeds into bioessentialist attitudes that are at the core of a lot of transphobic rhetoric and encourages a culture of paranoid transphobes always on the lookout for people who don’t pass well enough for their liking to harass off the platform.

Instead, a safe space should be created through strict moderation and a robust blocking system. Allegations of misconduct should be taken seriously and dealt with swiftly and harshly, and rules about appropriate conduct should be clearly outlined, banning all types of harassment and bigotry. That kind of robust moderation is of course not easy, but it’s still easier and more ethical than trying to come up with a threshold for who has too close of proximity to manhood to be allowed in the safe space without excluding vulnerable people who need the safe space.

Munchies:
@Enas, this is how you engage with this question in a more productive way.

Enas:
Someone said that there could be a website that won't allow men in it (something like that)
That's what i was referring to. Apart from what might seems obvious, there is a big problem when trying to exclude a specific group of people from somewhere on the internet. It's not the real world. You can ban computers, as in the devises themselves from accessing but you cannot really ban a human from that place. Only make it harder for them to access. It's much easier to only include a specific group and exclude anyone else altho that's still not safe, technically speaking.
That's why i said that this is not a good idea. But if there is an ideal world then this doesn't make sense because it only hides the problem of men feeling like you owe them something. (as Miachu put it)
Whouldnt it be actually better if this was entirely solved? In an ideal world that whould happen, i think!
That's my one point. The other is i saw what everyone said and noticed it was indeed on topic. What that place whould look like. I just wanted to also answer the question that nobody asked; what whould it's mechanism work like! Maybe I'll give other people ideas and they might write them too! And somebody might actually work with it! Again I'm suggesting how it could work. Not how it whould feel to the end user.
Please, do try to challenge my idea! I'd love to see its flaws and think of how it can be improved!
Uhm, does this make sense now? 😅

Munchies:
Enas, why do you want to be a part of a safe space for women, femmes, non-binary, and gender non-conforming people?

Enas:
Munchies I'm really confused! 😂
I don't think i said that, what i said is more on the lines of, I'd love to help in the process of creating such a safe place. I'm guessing you wanna know why, and that's because it makes me sad that people are mistreated by other people only because the latter haven't matured yet. I don't mind if the people i help are not in the same group i am I'd just like to help. It pleases me to do so

Munchies:
So ... you want to be involved in this safe space because you're one of the good ones. As such, you are entitled to be a part of this safe space because you've earned it.

Am I correct?

Enas:
Someone said that there could be a website that won't allow men in it (something like that)
That's what i was referring to. Apart from what might seems obvious, there is a big problem when trying to exclude a specific group of people from somewhere on the internet. It's not the real world. You can ban computers, as in the devises themselves from accessing but you cannot really ban a human from that place. Only make it harder for them to access. It's much easier to only include a specific group and exclude anyone else altho that's still not safe, technically speaking.
That's why i said that this is not a good idea. But if there is an ideal world then this doesn't make sense because it only hides the problem of men feeling like you owe them something. (as Miachu put it)
Whouldnt it be actually better if this was entirely solved? In an ideal world that whould happen, i think!
That's my one point. The other is i saw what everyone said and noticed it was indeed on topic. What that place whould look like. I just wanted to also answer the question that nobody asked; what whould it's mechanism work like! Maybe I'll give other people ideas and they might write them too! And somebody might actually work with it! Again I'm suggesting how it could work. Not how it whould feel to the end user.
Please, do try to challenge my idea! I'd love to see its flaws and think of how it can be improved!
Uhm, does this make sense now? 😅

Munchies:
Enas, why do you want to be a part of a safe space for women, femmes, non-binary, and gender non-conforming people?

Enas:
I'm not saying this is useless. More so, i think it's interesting! Otherwise i whouldnt put the effort to write. Im just suggesting something that will actually (most likely) work, with the goal of making the overall experience as good as possible for women / non-binary / transgender people.
And questioning the more aggressive opinions is aimed (amongst other things to help people understand that simple ideas to complex solutions are often the worst ones.

Plus im sorry if what i have in my mind comes up as something that feels offensive in my writing. That's not the goal here!

Munchies:
Enas, since you are not the target audience, it is best that you just listen to what people are saying. I see stuff in the forums all the time that I am not the target audience for. When that happens, I am very careful about how I approach things - if I even approach it at all. Even moreso if I am part of a dominant group.

For example, I am cishet. If I see trans people talking about their lived experiences, I check my privledge and do what I can to be an ally.

Another example: I am black. If I see some Asian people talking about their lived experiences, I make sure that I listen more than I speak. As a black woman, I may empathize and identify with certain things, but I am still an outsider.

You did not approach this as a man who wants to better understand a situation and have productive conversations. You approached with your blinders on, full of biases, and just ... disregarded what people were saying.

Enas:
I'd also love to question the more... aggressive, opinions but since this is a hypothetical question about an ideal world, i guess it's not the place to do that.

Munchies:
Enas, with peace and love, but you are missing the forrest for the trees.

Remember our conversation over the weekend?