I dont do anything, for me, counting calories would be the opposite of what I want to do lol, I just eat what I want when I want and in what quantities I want and then sometimes even when I dont really want to lol
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If you dont eat healthy or exercise you will be more inclined to develop high blood pressure, high cholesterol, heart disease, bowel cancer etc.
that has absolutely nothing with the amount of fat tissue your body has.
So if you ate a healthy diet, exercised and then used a low sugar weight gain shake every day to bring you over your caloric requirements or something like that you would be gaining weight without making you susceptible to those diseases.
However, and this really seems to be left out of alot of discussion on fat health, is that there are disorders out there that are caused directly by the fat tissue, things like diabetes, meralgia parathesia, hernias, etc. Obviously not all fat people will develop these but I do think they need to be mentioned.
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next time imma use that $20 for a pack of smokes and the left over on some coke yeahh suck that NHS
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muscleslovescurves wrote:
and thirdly because it is cheaper and i have a very high metabolisim and if i ate junk all the time i would be poor
I definetly disagree with this, healthy food is soooo much more expensive than unhealthy food, that is why low income areas are more likely to have a high percent of overweight citizens than higher income areas.
I remember one time working in the city and only having $5 to buy lunch with and looking everywhere for something healthy but all the salads, sushi, rolls etc. were atleast $7-10 so I had to settle for a whopper burger for $4.95 because it was literally the only thing that would fill me up and I could afford.
also the other day I bought a big whole watermleon and it cost me 20$ !!!!! I could have bought 10 x 2$ bags of chips for that ! and at Mcdonalds the other day I noticed salads are like 9$ yet a burger is $5
and not even starting on all the 1$ deals at mcdonalds, I mean you get get a cheeseburger and small fries for $2, what else could you get for that price that would fill you up that much ?
bit of a rant but juat really annoys me when they go on and on about the obesity crisis and how were all such drains on the health care system yet a watermelon costs $20 pppfttt what a joke
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Good Job ! I loveee hearing about things like this, its about time people got told off for this bullshit !
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foxglove wrote:
Such a good thread.
Like Gary I remember the study that said that being (moderately) fat actually doesn't shorten your lifespan.
I'm also trying to remember the literature on management of so-called obesity-related diseases such as diabetes, and arguments over whether or not certain diseases such as diabetes are really caused by obesity or whether the link is more sophisticated/complex than a causal link.
I recall reading that whilst there is an apparent correlation between being overweight and contracting adult-onset (Type II) diabetes, actually it also depends what you ate to get overweight. If you eat fast and sugary food to excess, you increase your risk of becoming diabetic. If you eat sensible food (ie. stuff that doesn't send your blood sugar up and down crazily, like protein and green vegetables and pulses) to excess, you might well be fat but you won't get diabetes because your blood sugar level has always been normal.
Further the expense to the health service caused by people with diabetes has a closer link to education than to being overweight. You are far less likely to require medical resources if you manage your diabetes well (type II diabetes can often be managed by food choices alone) than if you have poor control over your blood sugar. Because that control is tricky to achieve if you're confused about how to do it, a thin but cognitively challenged person is going to present much more of a problem to the GP and hospital than a very fat but bright or well-informed person who is dealing well with their diabetes.
Obviously there is a correlation between poverty and poor management of diabetes because of the education issue. Which links back to what Gingersnaps was saying about the real issue being fat = poor and also now fat = poor = drain on resources because of poor ability to manage a (usually) controllable health condition.
Can someone who has a more organised brain than me or proper medical knowledge summarise it/confirm or deny the above?
Does this apparent link to being overweight, which actually breaks down if you look at it carefully, apply to other health conditions as well as diabetes?
I seem to recall that there are certain cancers that fat people are allegedly more prone to, but again I wonder if that is actually fat people who eat a certain type of food or who don't take exercise (etc), not fat people per se. I also recall there are certain cancers that overweight people are LESS likely to get.
I agree that being overweight tends to be seen as a general evil when in fact it might be more specific, eg. eating certain foods (which you don't have to be fat to do) or behaving in a certain way (not managing a health condition). Sure, more fat people are likely to suffer those health conditions but it's not actually BEING FAT that causes them.
You are right, all the diseases supposed to be associated with being overweight are not at all caused by the extra fat tissue on the body, they are caused by improper diet and lack of excercise, however there is one exception and thats diabetes, because sometimes the pancreas just cant secret enough insulin to provide for a large body.
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[quote]Maimee wrote:
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oh man totally read that as faeces for some reason
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Definetly sounds like you got the FA gene haha, sounds like a friend of mine actually so I know youre not the only one that feels this way.
Im not sure where my fat fetish came from, my sister and mum are both big but they hate it and all my family members want to be slim and want a slim partner so it seems im the only one haha,
I used to think maybe it came from my mum being big and a positive person in my life but now I think about it, the first time I remember doing anything fat related was before mum had really gained any weight.
Same with how I thought maybe it had something to do with me being teased in school because now I like weight gain humiliation but same thing there, I remember liking it when I was around 8 and I didnt start getting teased until a few years later.
So the conclusion I come to is that some people get it from genes and some are just born with it, but thats just my theory
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