Female fa's/feeders and gender expectations

Magodamilion2:
Yes I relate strongly, I've been trying to put it into words. People sometimes say they get a lesbian vibe from me and I've always throught it was to do with my fat fetish.

But what it really is is that I'm a top. I'm a cis het woman but I'm a top. My fantasies are all centered around degrading men and making them as helpless as possible.

It's a certain kind of madness that lots of men have, that thirst for another person's humiliation and gradual destruction. Iykyk


The last paragraph is something ive been thinking about a lot! As a feedee im into death feederism. My concious (=/= horny?) self has come to really hate it, because its so impractical, and to have that fetish means that either satisfying it will not end well, or it will remain unsatisfied. Its nontheless a big turn on for me but i cannot tell you how much i hate it!
11 months

Female fa's/feeders and gender expectations

Magodamilion2:
Yes I relate strongly, I've been trying to put it into words. People sometimes say they get a lesbian vibe from me and I've always throught it was to do with my fat fetish.

But what it really is is that I'm a top. I'm a cis het woman but I'm a top. My fantasies are all centered around degrading men and making them as helpless as possible.

It's a certain kind of madness that lots of men have, that thirst for another person's humiliation and gradual destruction. Iykyk

Munchies:
I've noticed some of the more common fantasies around here involve putting women in their place. I get it to some degree. I'm a sadistic domme. Where they lose me is how they view this as women in our natural state.

Of course, only maladjusted men think like this. Unfortunately, online spaces like FF are teeming with maladjusted men. So when they come across real women who do not conform to their narrow idea of what women are like, they are quick to label them as masculine.

And it's not just the men either. I've witnessed several maladjusted women doing this, too. They have the same rigid gender roles as their male counterparts. So when you tell them you're an FA or a feeder, they cannot process this. Often, they'll write you off as gay rather than reassess their worldview.

Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, and some are unwashed.


Thats plain gender *passive* ideology! People put people into these boxes. They dont know that theyre doing it, but theyre doing it!
11 months

Getting involved in the community

Bigbellylvr1:
What can I do as a skinny person to be a part of the community and meet people it kinda feels like I’m not worthy of joining in on fat talk because idk what it’s like lol I really want to gain but can’t really afford it at the moment but I want to get my foot in the door for when the time comes

Munchies:
FF has people of all shapes and sizes. Skinny people are valid and welcome. We have several gainers and feedees just starting out, so you'll be in fine company.

Shadowmike:
You've hardly been around and have a S.O. You try way too hard. You come off so needy and miserable.

Enas:
Eer... You say that to Munchies? Which is the most active user on forums, of the entier site for years?

This is really strange.

Munchies:
Meh. I don't care about his opinion. Still, I appreciate you saying something.


I dont care much about what he said either, its simply false (besides totally obscene), but i really worry about how he thinks! He is totally spontanious here! No actual thought was involved to construct what he wrote down!
11 months

Getting involved in the community

Bigbellylvr1:
What can I do as a skinny person to be a part of the community and meet people it kinda feels like I’m not worthy of joining in on fat talk because idk what it’s like lol I really want to gain but can’t really afford it at the moment but I want to get my foot in the door for when the time comes

Munchies:
FF has people of all shapes and sizes. Skinny people are valid and welcome. We have several gainers and feedees just starting out, so you'll be in fine company.

Shadowmike:
You've hardly been around and have a S.O. You try way too hard. You come off so needy and miserable.


Eer... You say that to Munchies? Which is the most active user on forums, of the entier site for years?

This is really strange.
11 months

Getting involved in the community

Justinboo0313:
I’m trying to get to know people around here also. I’m not a big guy either, but it really doesn’t matter. I’m trying to get past some of the mental issues that come along with our kink. Like discovering you’re not completely a feeder and finding you have a desire to gain or be dominated. I have a partner that’s not into the kink but has tolerated it and joined in off and on to satisfy me. But now Im coming to terms with the reality that I’m probably a gainer, and probably always have been. That opened up a whole new box of feelings and anxiety’s.


Would you like to talk about your anxieties and feelings on this matter? I share a kind of similar story and i might be able to help you in some limited way.
11 months

Belly gaining and asexuality.

Enas:
Maybe i should reword if (from what is possible / impossible to what trends to happen in our days, currently) but if i remember correctly, i got that one from a lecture by Slavoj Zizek here: ?si=LDe0EzPMEJZK3Wl7

Munchies:
Imma level with you here, chief. This explains many things about you, and most of it isn't good.

Enas:
Can you explain this in more detail?

Munchies:
Let's just say that I'm not taking any advice from an old Polish fart that's gone on record saying, "Hitler wasn't violent enough". Also, in a debate with Jordan Peterson, a known white supremacist, agreed with him about the decline of society.

And that's as far as I will go because I refuse to talk politics and philosophy with you specifically.

Enas:
I really cant see how what he explained in either case is wrong. The first altho it sounds like a horible thing to say, was in the context of explaining that Hitler was a conservative, that physical violence aside, his policies and ideas were in some sense nothing violently new and progressive. The second is even more obvious, since we live in late / end stage capitalism.
He is also Slovenian 😅

Munchies:
My bad about the nationality, but as a black Jewish woman, both of y'all can get bent.

Besides, as a cishet person commenting on a thread about ace people, why didn't you take the time to learn about ace people from other ace people? That's commen sense, I fear


I commented on this thread merely for the sake of pluralism (this is a complicated matter which depends on many factors most of which, each individual is ignorant about, etc) and i wanted to say this because i see it might connect, it might be a part of the explenation and it was thus far not mentioned. If it is, id like to see how. If it is not, id likewise want to see how its not relevant.

I also rarely talk here with other people in general at this point. But, among other things, if it came to it, id love to have a conversation about asexuality with an ace person! It just has not occured yet.
11 months

Belly gaining and asexuality.

Enas:
Maybe i should reword if (from what is possible / impossible to what trends to happen in our days, currently) but if i remember correctly, i got that one from a lecture by Slavoj Zizek here: ?si=LDe0EzPMEJZK3Wl7

Munchies:
Imma level with you here, chief. This explains many things about you, and most of it isn't good.

Enas:
Can you explain this in more detail?

Munchies:
Let's just say that I'm not taking any advice from an old Polish fart that's gone on record saying, "Hitler wasn't violent enough". Also, in a debate with Jordan Peterson, a known white supremacist, agreed with him about the decline of society.

And that's as far as I will go because I refuse to talk politics and philosophy with you specifically.


I really cant see how what he explained in either case is wrong. The first altho it sounds like a horible thing to say, was in the context of explaining that Hitler was a conservative, that physical violence aside, his policies and ideas were in some sense nothing violently new and progressive. The second is even more obvious, since we live in late / end stage capitalism.
He is also Slovenian 😅
11 months

Belly gaining and asexuality.

FAMGM:
I’ve certainly found that the fatter I’ve got the less important actual sex is. I can well imagine that at 600 lbs I won’t care about it.

Stockylove:
And more the dick is buried and disappear. Coïncidence?

I do not think so 😉

Munchies:
Eh

I take your meaning, but I want to emphasis that the size of your fat pad or how buried your dick is has nothing to do with your libido. It also doesn't mean you can't have sex. You might need to get creative, but that's it.

I bring this up because a lot of people with dicks worry that if they get really fat, even with a willing partner, that's the end of their sex lives.

And yes. This can include some ace peeps.

Enas:
There is something really interesting here! Let me start by mentioning the fact that it is impossible to have sex (reach an orgasm etc) without a fantasy. It will operate on the cognitive level, and without it nothing sexual can genuinly happen. (asexuality might have to do with that btw! To not have those fantasies) Even when someone thinks they are experiencing the real thing, the actual pleasures come from the fantasy which is realized.

Now let me get a step further. In today's world we have lots of things like, Coke but without sugar. Or coffee without coffeine. And i think that what is illustrated by FAMGM is that sex today, is sex without sex. Meaning, the actual penetration and so on. Because the essense is on the fantasy, which if for example has to do with fat, and the feedee is extremely fat, then thats it! It doesnt mean that there is a low libido, maybe even the oposite! But its not something that can be satisfied through traditional sex intercourse.

What do you think?

Munchies:
Enas, where do you even get this stuff from?

It's 100% possible to orgasm or even have sex without fantasy. It's called being in the moment. Just because you can't doesn't mean other's can't too.

Also, asexuality means you do not experience sexual attraction. Sexual attraction is different from sexual expression. Some (not all) ace people like sex, but they aren't sexually attracted to people regardless of gender.

Another thing is that you are conflating kink with sex. They are two different things, and you can have one without the other. To be clear, I am not discounting nonpenetrative forms of sex like cyber sex. However, kink, though sexual, is not in and of itself sex.

For example, if you go to a BDSM dungeon to have someone pour wax on you, you aren't having sex. Even if you cum from it, it still isn't sex.

Enas:
Maybe i should reword if (from what is possible / impossible to what trends to happen in our days, currently) but if i remember correctly, i got that one from a lecture by Slavoj Zizek here: ?si=LDe0EzPMEJZK3Wl7

Munchies:
Imma level with you here, chief. This explains many things about you, and most of it isn't good.


Can you explain this in more detail?
11 months

Ssbbw body shapes

Angelgluttony:
I just got told I have the worst body shape as far as being a ssbbw and I feel like shit because it got 3 other agreements!?


Let me just Introduce some thinking to this:

What on earth even is a "Good" or "Bad" shape? People throw words without even thinking about them!
11 months