MitchHedberg:
I believe this is 100% the best way to achieve subcutaneous fat over visceral fat gains.

People will tell you heavy cream this and that, but it doesn't produce consistent results. The only time-tested consistent method is the sumo wrestler lifestyle.

Munchies:
The reason they say that is because guzzling heavy cream is easier than what sumo wrestlers do. And I know this because every time I suggest it, most people react in disgust.

For those who don't know, it boils down to eating a healthy, high calorie diet and exercise. You don't have to do it exactly the way sumo wrestlers do it. I don't think most can or want to. But if you eat a healthy, high calorie diet and exercise, it's enough.

What happens is the healthy, high calorie diet gives you the nutrition to function and feel great while exercising manages your viceral fat. Since your body burns viceral fat before it burns subcutanous, you can reduce your viceral fat while eating enough to be fluffy.

There are some caveats. You have to keep your calorie intake well above what you burn. For that reason, it's best to do medium to low intensity exercises. Also, if you have a lot of visceral fat, you will not see a significant shift. In my experience as a feeder with a preference for belly heavy men, what usually happens is their round belly gets softer, but there's still a lot of visceral fat under the softness.

MitchHedberg:
I disagree that simply exercising is enough and I say this as someone that has stuck to a clean diet and done consistent "regular exercising" (weight lifting 3 times per week + high intensity cardio ). I still gained plenty of visceral fat in the process.

The key to the Sumo Wrestler success is the intensity and frequency of their exercise.

MitchHedberg:
I believe this is 100% the best way to achieve subcutaneous fat over visceral fat gains.

People will tell you heavy cream this and that, but it doesn't produce consistent results. The only time-tested consistent method is the sumo wrestler lifestyle.

Angelgluttony:
Lately I've been super lonely and just not feeling okay mentally. a lot of my “friends” have told me that I need to try to make friends. Most would think that a 23-year-old would have some sort of social life but honestly I don’t. I’ve been chatting with people and having basic conversation and such but eventually it just dies off. And when I text them every other day it just makes me feel like I’m a bother. of course everyone is busy/ have their own life. But for some odd reason I get offended when seeing them online and actively chatting in groups. I feel like saying that makes me feel narcissistic or selfish. But if I didn’t want to talk to someone, I would tell them. Idk man. And then me being a feedee it gets so boring when I have no one to send pictures and stuff too or talk about things with. I do it for my own pleasure sure but it just gets so depressing when the only time someone messages you is to basically “get off” on “chatting”. I mean I’m not judging but where is the “ Hi how are you?” 😂 does anyone else feel like this?

Morbidly A Beast:
I sometimes pretend I’m skinny to fit in, It’s not a behavior I’m proud of at all and I feel like it’s going to bite me in the ass someday but for now I think I’ll just mask up I do slip up sometimes and talk about how much I like to eat. But people can be so vicious

BigOke02:
This might be off topic but related, I've wondered myself why the hostility towards fat people on the internet recently...

It's everywhere, especially Instagram. People not necessarily even body positive, feedee or whatever but just average fat people exercising, trying on clothes, talk about stuff, etc but go through the comments... The same worn out "jokes", the same "but your health" trolling, etc.

It makes me wonder why these people hate fat people so... Live and let live, right? I kinda wish scientific studies could be done to figure out why the fuck people are so hostile to fat people.

Munchies:
I've said this elsewhere, but fatphobia is considered the last condoned kind of bigotry. Since society views being fat as a moral failig and a choice, they feel validated to be as cruel as possible.

The internet is a cruel place. If you are marginalized in any way, people will leave hate comments and troll you. But there is a limit to this because if you go after the wrong one or it goes viral enough, the internet will go after you and come for all you hold dear.

With a few exceptions, the internet doesn't have the same level of rage for fatphobia as they do for other other forms of bigotry. So the bullies feel safer to be gross.

Morbidly A Beast:
It’s amazing how even some otherwise progressive people don’t condemn fatphobia, unless the issue is brought up. obviously it’s a less important issue in some aspects but still bigotry non the less.

The ammount of videos you see deriding fat people and body positivity is insane and they all get away with it

Smolguy:
Sub feeder, was dom. Realized control in feedist realtionships is messy because its much like liontaming. This is from the perspective of a skinny feeder, large feedee and probably applies to most cases, but there are other edge cases where this doesnt apply for example short feedees and bodybuilder feeders.

Even if we play at it, feedees are ultimately the dominant in a relationship even if they hand the reigns over in the bedroom.

If you weigh a significant amount, you could literally hurt your partner just with your weight. The muscles needed to carry that body are by default going to be stronger than your partners unless they do physical labor or train to be stronger than you in the gym. Thats real power you have over them that you can choose to use. Usually people conflate lack of endurance with lack of strength, so don't be foold just cause you got out of breath. You moved your fat self that your partner couldn't budge.

The feeder is always being subserviant to the feedee outside the bedroom because they have to spend money and time making sure their feedee get enough calories, even if the feedee hands control for play.

The fact is, submission is always a choice, but I think that the negative association with fat influences some peoples decisons about how feedists relationships HAVE to be submissve fat person, dominant skinny person, we all know that the skinny person is in control as long as the fat person tolerates it.

BigOke02:
This might be off topic but related, I've wondered myself why the hostility towards fat people on the internet recently...

It's everywhere, especially Instagram. People not necessarily even body positive, feedee or whatever but just average fat people exercising, trying on clothes, talk about stuff, etc but go through the comments... The same worn out "jokes", the same "but your health" trolling, etc.

It makes me wonder why these people hate fat people so... Live and let live, right? I kinda wish scientific studies could be done to figure out why the fuck people are so hostile to fat people.

Hydrogen:
Starting out small at the beginning of the day and slowly stuffing yourself with bigger and bigger meals just to be huge at the end of the day is the best feeling ever. Honestly being full from your favorite food is amazing as well. It’s also fun just to look at the number on the scale go up throughout the day

Nothing real special here, just wanted to share how much I enjoy stuffing

FatFalcon:
So I decided to regain again and went back to Grommr. Two encouragers are helping me. But odd kinksters who one of which thinks I should be a punching bag with boxing gloves. The other one is into squashing which I am fine with but I am not really into it unless I want a relationship and discuss it. I have been blocked by two guys who really just set me off. I’m starting to think it’s a mistake to gain with that crowd.

MickRidem:
So, it's not really the gain that's a problem, but the company?

Grommr is an ...interesting place. A lot of hit or miss, and some who are outright disrespectful. Is this something you can just do for yourself? Or wait until you feel more comfortable with the company you find?

FatFalcon:
Basically an environment that is actually better and not just cringe worthy. I have been in an out of that community and to me it’s been really just feels like it’s worse than it’s ever been.

2seatsalways:
If anything I'm for your body you do you, but Ozempic being abused for weight loss instead of mainly diabetes is really tragic. Sure there is mounjaro and a small list of others but ozempic was the leading medication that helped millions of patients.
Now those patients are struggling to get ozempic because it's becoming more available for weight loss than helping blood sugar levels.

Hot take I know but rather this pill be used for people who need it.

Munchies:
Yeah. Plus it's coming out that a decent size of people who are taking this are experiencing permanent side effects.

But that's not about fat exceptance.

PurpleJade:
Curious as to what side effects you’re saying, of listed on webmd all seem standard and pretty expected of a medication. Anything different you’ve heard in particular? My S/O is trying to be approved. I’m not really for it, but that’s not my decision.