Anyone there talk?

I'd love to talk about anything so long as we can allow the conversation to enter the domain of phylosophy.

(also it occurs to me, from the looks of it, that the first post might have been deleted and we see a comment as the original post? Or am i wrong?)
11 months

Belly gaining and asexuality.

FAMGM:
I’ve certainly found that the fatter I’ve got the less important actual sex is. I can well imagine that at 600 lbs I won’t care about it.

Stockylove:
And more the dick is buried and disappear. Coïncidence?

I do not think so 😉

Munchies:
Eh

I take your meaning, but I want to emphasis that the size of your fat pad or how buried your dick is has nothing to do with your libido. It also doesn't mean you can't have sex. You might need to get creative, but that's it.

I bring this up because a lot of people with dicks worry that if they get really fat, even with a willing partner, that's the end of their sex lives.

And yes. This can include some ace peeps.

Enas:
There is something really interesting here! Let me start by mentioning the fact that it is impossible to have sex (reach an orgasm etc) without a fantasy. It will operate on the cognitive level, and without it nothing sexual can genuinly happen. (asexuality might have to do with that btw! To not have those fantasies) Even when someone thinks they are experiencing the real thing, the actual pleasures come from the fantasy which is realized.

Now let me get a step further. In today's world we have lots of things like, Coke but without sugar. Or coffee without coffeine. And i think that what is illustrated by FAMGM is that sex today, is sex without sex. Meaning, the actual penetration and so on. Because the essense is on the fantasy, which if for example has to do with fat, and the feedee is extremely fat, then thats it! It doesnt mean that there is a low libido, maybe even the oposite! But its not something that can be satisfied through traditional sex intercourse.

What do you think?

Munchies:
Enas, where do you even get this stuff from?

It's 100% possible to orgasm or even have sex without fantasy. It's called being in the moment. Just because you can't doesn't mean other's can't too.

Also, asexuality means you do not experience sexual attraction. Sexual attraction is different from sexual expression. Some (not all) ace people like sex, but they aren't sexually attracted to people regardless of gender.

Another thing is that you are conflating kink with sex. They are two different things, and you can have one without the other. To be clear, I am not discounting nonpenetrative forms of sex like cyber sex. However, kink, though sexual, is not in and of itself sex.

For example, if you go to a BDSM dungeon to have someone pour wax on you, you aren't having sex. Even if you cum from it, it still isn't sex.


Maybe i should reword if (from what is possible / impossible to what trends to happen in our days, currently) but if i remember correctly, i got that one from a lecture by Slavoj Zizek here: ?si=LDe0EzPMEJZK3Wl7
11 months

Belly gaining and asexuality.

FAMGM:
I’ve certainly found that the fatter I’ve got the less important actual sex is. I can well imagine that at 600 lbs I won’t care about it.

Stockylove:
And more the dick is buried and disappear. Coïncidence?

I do not think so 😉

Munchies:
Eh

I take your meaning, but I want to emphasis that the size of your fat pad or how buried your dick is has nothing to do with your libido. It also doesn't mean you can't have sex. You might need to get creative, but that's it.

I bring this up because a lot of people with dicks worry that if they get really fat, even with a willing partner, that's the end of their sex lives.

And yes. This can include some ace peeps.


There is something really interesting here! Let me start by mentioning the fact that it is impossible to have sex (reach an orgasm etc) without a fantasy. It will operate on the cognitive level, and without it nothing sexual can genuinly happen. (asexuality might have to do with that btw! To not have those fantasies) Even when someone thinks they are experiencing the real thing, the actual pleasures come from the fantasy which is realized.

Now let me get a step further. In today's world we have lots of things like, Coke but without sugar. Or coffee without coffeine. And i think that what is illustrated by FAMGM is that sex today, is sex without sex. Meaning, the actual penetration and so on. Because the essense is on the fantasy, which if for example has to do with fat, and the feedee is extremely fat, then thats it! It doesnt mean that there is a low libido, maybe even the oposite! But its not something that can be satisfied through traditional sex intercourse.

What do you think?
11 months

My theory

There is no logical connection between the examples you give and the assumption you make, because you structure it from your biased views. For example even if you search up Goebells (as an importand figure of concious propaganda making), his usual technique would be exactly the oposite from being subtle.

One the other hand, passive ideology, which is what cartoons might do, is not conciously designed by soneome and thus cannot have any kind of such clear goal.

Please, keep in mind that even in the things that society is said to be designed to do, it utterly fails to achieve even a single of them.
1 year

I am looking for a feeder

Welcome!

Its nice seeing even one more greek, Active in the community! 😆
1 year

Supressing the fetish

MountainChub:
Can you suppress the fetish and find happyness trough other aspects in life?

Enas:
I dont know how you can find happyness from a fetish, at least directly. A fetish has to do with pleasure, in order to find happyness you need to work for a higher cause, and so on.

What my advice is, is to start working on something exciting, so exciting that it makes you forget about your fetish! Dont try to do anything with the fetish itself, just let yourself get carried away from it, with something else.

Munchies:
This is like trying to kick binge eating by taking up smoking.

Assuming he has maladaptive habits with his feedist kink, it's just swapping one vice for another at best, or ending up with multiple vices at worst.

Enas:
Sorry, i didnt word it well enough. I had in mind things like reading / writing, learning, making art, or going on bysicle rides (thats something i enjoy a lot)

Munchies:
And that's putting lipstick on a pig. If you try to deal with internal issues only by focusing on external things, you won't get very far. You need to address the internal motivation as well.

Still, fetishes and kinks are a part of you. You can find healthier ways to indulge it but can't suppress it - at least for long.


Of what use is it to adressed the internal motivation, if you cannot surpress the fetish?

Do you mean for example, psychological addictions that might have developed?
1 year

Supressing the fetish

MountainChub:
Can you suppress the fetish and find happyness trough other aspects in life?

Enas:
I dont know how you can find happyness from a fetish, at least directly. A fetish has to do with pleasure, in order to find happyness you need to work for a higher cause, and so on.

What my advice is, is to start working on something exciting, so exciting that it makes you forget about your fetish! Dont try to do anything with the fetish itself, just let yourself get carried away from it, with something else.

Munchies:
This is like trying to kick binge eating by taking up smoking.

Assuming he has maladaptive habits with his feedist kink, it's just swapping one vice for another at best, or ending up with multiple vices at worst.


Sorry, i didnt word it well enough. I had in mind things like reading / writing, learning, making art, or going on bysicle rides (thats something i enjoy a lot)
1 year

Supressing the fetish

MountainChub:
Can you suppress the fetish and find happyness trough other aspects in life?


I dont know how you can find happyness from a fetish, at least directly. A fetish has to do with pleasure, in order to find happyness you need to work for a higher cause, and so on.

What my advice is, is to start working on something exciting, so exciting that it makes you forget about your fetish! Dont try to do anything with the fetish itself, just let yourself get carried away from it, with something else.
1 year

Wedge pillow

Munchies:
I can't sleep on my back because I suffer from post-nasal drip. If I try, I'll choke.

Enas:
YIKES! That sounds terrifying!

Munchies:
To someone unfamiliar with the situation, I can understand why you'd think that, but it's more inconvenient than scary.

If I fall asleep on my back and my post-nasal drip starts acting, what happens is I'll wake from my sleep coughing.[/quote]

Ooh i see. How often do you roll over in bed when you sleep? (i do it all the time i think 😅)
1 year

Wedge pillow

Munchies:
I can't sleep on my back because I suffer from post-nasal drip. If I try, I'll choke. [/quote]

YIKES! That sounds terrifying!
1 year