Dating women without physical attraction?

BustingButtons:
Honestly how would you like to hear they like your but they're not physically attracted to you.

Don't deny someone true happiness, let them date someone that appreciates every inch of them.

Also use porn less if you feel you're struggling to feel attraction.


1 year

Dating women without physical attraction?

ForeverFFA:
Not to get off topic, but the distinction I've often heard is that all fetishes are kinks (along the lines of Munchies' definition), but fetishes feel more obligatory to the person who has them.


I think this article explains it best:
purewow.com/wellness/kink-vs-fetish

An excerpt from the article:

There can definitely be some overlap between a kink and a fetish so we understand the confusion. Dr. Torrisi breaks down the difference as “whether it's something someone likes to do or if it’s something someone has to do in order to have sexual pleasure.”

Here’s an example: If one night in bed, you accidentally hear your neighbors going at it and it turns you on, that’s kinky. But, if you need to listen to or watch others having sex in order to feel aroused then that’s a fetish.
1 year

Dating women without physical attraction?



Letters And Numbers:
Are you saying you can’t have a sexual relationship with a person you’re compatible with and are attracted to in many (of the most important) ways, like their personality and intellect? What if this woman wants a sexual relationship with you?

X_Larsson:
Not quite. I said that I am not attracted to, when initiating this.
For me, most "regular" women are as sexually neutral in my eyes, as men are. So, they do not even register as "person that could be sexually interesting". That includes movie stars, celebrities etc.

It is hard for me to speculate what her feelings would be, wrt physical attraction.

Chimneychonga:
Male attraction works a bit differently. Although I can appreciate someone with intellect and personality, sometimes that doesn't translate to the guy downstairs. Believe me, ED wouldn't be a problem if that's what all guys needed, much to women's chagrin.

As for OP, I think it's healthy to try out an asexual relationship if you're upfront with it ("I had a bad relationship earlier, so I'd rather take things slow until we get to know each other" ) . As long as she/they isn't in a rush, I think you both can enjoy the romance part and enjoying dates, learning new hobbies, and even if the relationship doesn't work out on friendly terms, both practice their skills on how to communicate and how to be open with feelings. The only downside is an explosive end to the relationship, but with low stakes, I really doubt that would happen. If you find someone open to the idea, enjoy the ride, smell the roses.

X_Larsson:
Thank you for the interesting reply. Yup, I think you (coincidentally) put your finger on one sensitive thing when you mentioned ED...
Women are more vain about their physical attraction and appearance than men are. I think most women (sadly) would have a major problem dating someone who does has no urge or feel no physical attraction to their bodies. And especially if they are somewhat "normally" atrractive, as in slender/medium weight etc. In a way, that would make them feel less coveted and less young/fertile, as a more cerebral/romantic/platonic relation would put her in some sort of "post sex", grandmother roll.

I will really think about this. I have made mistakes in form of selecting away from women due to lack of sexual compatibility. It HAS felt like the right thing to do, but it is a lonely path to be on.

ForeverFFA:
There's nothing wrong with wanting an asexual/platonic relationship for the reasons you described, but I think some of your attitudes towards women in general might need unpacking. Each woman has their own personality and relationship needs/expectations, just like with men and anyone else. It's not about vanity.


Nothing vain about wanting to be seen and valued. It's healthy even. All genders want that.

Men and women are individuals. If you meet one man, you've met one man. If you meet one woman, you've met one woman.
1 year

Dating women without physical attraction?



Chimneychonga:
Male attraction works a bit differently. Although I can appreciate someone with intellect and personality, sometimes that doesn't translate to the guy downstairs. Believe me, ED wouldn't be a problem if that's what all guys needed, much to women's chagrin.

Letters And Numbers:
I guess my thought is, if a fetish is interfering with your life to the point where you can’t have a normal relationship with a partner, and if that’s a problem (it might not be), sex therapy might be a solution. Maybe I’m wrong, but finding a partner who checks all the boxes (except physical looks) and who ALSO doesn’t want a sexual relationship might be a tall order. I mean, if someone told me they loved me and wanted an intimate relationship but they were unable to have sex with me because of how I look … idk. Not saying they don’t exist, but it’s an extra hurdle.

X_Larsson:
Yup! Thanks! But I have a couple of comments.
First. Feedism is not a fetish (which is more an object related deviation). I have read basically everything I have seen online (and in print) about the feedism thing, and it seems the authorities struggle to fit it into either the BDSM box (a big, fat no), or into more body transformation or parafilia related deviations (also a no go).
Feedism refuses to be put together with other deviations, is my view on this, just like homosexuality etc.
And feedism is not a "size" distinction. It is about the whole relation to appetite, food, consumption, gaining, AND size (and more?).

Secondly. (And I will be a bit tough here.)
What kind of attitude is it to say, that I cannot "have a normal relationship with a partner"?
Do you also tell straight people to enter relationships with homosexuals? Or tell 18 year old boys to marry 80 year old women?
If they objected, would you then send them to sex therapy?
Ok, on a lighter side. I have thought long and hard about sex therapy. It seems that the therapists generally want the client to explore and embrace their "natural" sexual preferences, unless they are illegal or revolting, like necrophilia or koprophilia.

That said, I also think it is a big spiritual defeat to resign any sexual aspirations in order to have at least a partial relation. Hmmm...

Letters And Numbers:
You can define it however you’d like, that’s not a problem, but if there is something standing in the way of your happiness, talking to someone might be helpful. Or maybe not. I wouldn’t paint all therapists with the same brush.

X_Larsson:
Well, I have talked to professional therapists, and also got the same general "embrace and explore" thing. My impression is that modern therapists / psychiatrists, never lead the client anywhere. The client has the answers inside, and by talking to the professional, the client will discover his/her best solution.

Good, but in this case not helpful for me.
(More self knowledge will not produce/introduce new feedees in my life, so to say.)


Honestly, I see feedism as more of a kink than a fetish. A kink is "unconventional sexual preferences or behavior collectively."


I wouldn't compare feedism to being gay as no one is beheading people for being feedist.

As for the whole having a relationship without being sexual, this only works if someone is asexual or you are in a polyamorous relationship where each partner gets their sexual needs from other people. But outside of that?

Sex is an important part of a long-term relationship. Either the woman will expect sex while you are dating, or she will expect sex after marriage. Short-term romantic dalliances don't have to be sexual. You can go on dates and not have sex, but the relationship won't be long-term.

People of all genders want their romantic partner to find them sexy. In Western culture, people in long-term relationships date for love. It's a huge blow to most people to hear their partner say, "I love you, but I am not sexually attracted to you." Again, that only works if both parties are okay with that.
1 year

10k calories a day

Morbidly A Beast:
I haven’t done much counting over my gain so far but I’ve been counting calories all week, I’m regularly eating around 10k calories everyday I didn’t change much in terms of what I’m eating but I normally wouldn’t eat like I have everyday. I have been feeling stuffed even when I’m hungry the last few days.I feel amazing but my belly is so descended and round but not so much it’s hard I’m still gooey around the middle.

I’ve found it hard to measure calories in home cooked meals it’s easy with food I’ve had delivered.

Would not recommend unless your used to regular stuffings as I feel like I’ve recently had a moderate stuffing all the time pretty much

Munchies:
I've done this with my partner before. I'd stuff him with at least 10k a day, and he'd wake up fatter than the day before.

It was super hot.

Alas, the human body isn't meant to eat that much, so there was a lot of gastro-intestinal distress.

Morbidly A Beast:
I was just kinda shocked the first day when I tallied it all up and was far over what I expected to be just on my “”normal diet”” keeping up everyday has been a bit of a challenge.

And you’re not wrong I feel bloated af, and I have been taking more movements not to get all scatological or anything but nothing to crazy. Hopefully it stays this way anything that should tell me to stop right away?


As a general rule of thumb, if you feel bad, stop. For example, if you are struggling to go to the bathroom, have heartburn, struggle breathing, feel sick, or can't function.

That said, I caution against doing this for too long. For obvious reasons.
1 year

10k calories a day

Morbidly A Beast:
I haven’t done much counting over my gain so far but I’ve been counting calories all week, I’m regularly eating around 10k calories everyday I didn’t change much in terms of what I’m eating but I normally wouldn’t eat like I have everyday. I have been feeling stuffed even when I’m hungry the last few days.I feel amazing but my belly is so descended and round but not so much it’s hard I’m still gooey around the middle.

I’ve found it hard to measure calories in home cooked meals it’s easy with food I’ve had delivered.

Would not recommend unless your used to regular stuffings as I feel like I’ve recently had a moderate stuffing all the time pretty much


I've done this with my partner before. I'd stuff him with at least 10k a day, and he'd wake up fatter than the day before.

It was super hot.

Alas, the human body isn't meant to eat that much, so there was a lot of gastro-intestinal distress.
1 year

Belly belts/obesity bands?

BigBallBellyGirl:
Has anyone with a supersized belly used an obesity belt to alleviate back pain? I'm not looking for a bariatric compression belt like the ones people use after bariatric surgery. I'm hoping to find something that takes the pressure off my lower back, hips, and upper belly. The largest maternity belt I found extended to 70 inches. I'm about 80 inches around standing, but I thought it still might work. It definitely didn't. When I tried to sit, the hook and eye closures broke immediately.

How do my fellow big-bellied super-sized folks relieve back pain and support those tummies?

Munchies:
Do I personally know anyone? No. But I've worked in health insurance. I am not sure if they make them in your size (90 inches sitting iirc) but I can look.

That said, it will be expensive. If you do have health insurance, check to see if they have a bariatric coverage.

As for the obesity belts themselves? Your milage may vary. Some people love theirs while others find them too uncomfortable to be worth it.

BigBallBellyGirl:
I do have insurance, and I believe if it was prescribed, I could get coverage. You're right, though, I haven't been able to find one my size at all. Would love to know if you happen to hear of a company that makes them. Thank you!


After diligently searching, the biggest ones I could find supported girths up to 75 inches. However, I found something else.



I found this on Etsy It's called a womb wrap. etsy.com/listing/983212985/custom-colors-womb-wraps-custom-order

I have no idea if it's big enough for you, but I think that if it's not, you could make one yourself.
1 year

Soft feeding ideas

Movie night snuggles while hand feeding him treats.

Cooking his favorite meal and giving him several plates.

Classic belly stuffing while massaging his belly.
1 year

Lost a friend...kinda

NoMoYoYo:
So on this gaining journey I've been going to the same Wendy's at least once a week. Each time ordering a lot of food and finishing it. The lady at the counter seemed to be intrigued at how much I've ordered and then ate.

The past couple of weeks she hasn't seemed her normal cheery self when serving me. I am noticibly fatter. More than 35lbs heavier than when I first went there a couple months ago. I don't know if she is feeling guilty about it. I mean we were never actual friends, but it felt like we had a thing. Perhaps I'm just thinking about it too much and its nothing.


It's more likely that it has nothing to do with you. You guys aren't close.
1 year

Crisp flavours

Feederboiii:
Chelinese buffets are pretty standard flavourings here.


They aren't a thing in my country. What does the flavor taste like?
1 year