If you touch on the weighty subject in public people are not going to say; "I want to be fattened to immobility"

They are more likely to say something which was actually said to me by an SSBBW checkout girl; "My mum wants me to lose weight but I don't mind being fat".

That's a Feedee right there. Does not mind being fat? Must f'king love it. People who don't mind being fat will at least claim they are thinking of going on a diet.

It's a different matter on FF where we will be judged by people who think being fat is the best thing ever.

I think with Feeders we say; "It's good to carry a bit of extra weight and it means you can eat what you like." when we mean; "Go on let yourself go, get as fat as humanly possible, you know you want to".

I suspect your body can't process this much fat. You need a strong liver and call bladder so investigate supplements that help that.

Alternatively you may want to go heavy on the carbs if you digest those better.

Here is a man who actually did this;
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It's very interesting how when he is fat he has actually become addicted to the food. He has lost all the motivation that used to keep him fit. It's actually quite amazing that he escaped from the trap he set for himself.

You know that it much more difficult people who have been fat for years rather than a few months. People who don't have a history and identity of being a fit person with a 6 pack.

The woman he wanted to bring back with him from being fat managed to talk herself out of it. She said she did not want to be valued by how fit or fat she was. So she justified staying fat as a form of validating herself as worthy. Losing the weight would be saying that all the time she was fat she was worthless. It's a bit of a mind fcuk but that's how she rationalized staying fat.

I think this is good news for Feeders and Feedees. Once you get in the habit of being fat then you just continue to get fatter with ease. :-)

Baby Boy Jake,

I'm not sure that would happen on a normal weight person. I do know that a 200lbs person can be 300lbs in a year or less.

A 2lbs per week weightgain adds up to a very significant gain after a decent time. Gaining super fast is probably not worth the money or effort.

Beer helps as does Cola. Liquid is fattening but less filling.

George,

You almost get me but accuse me of things which are not true. I am not anti-science as a source of knowledge, I am anti-science as a religion. People here seem to be advocating belief over reason and research.

I am not giving you my research for a very good reason, that you should do your own. I am not advocating my anecdotes but stating that I have my own knowledge on the subject rather than just second hand knowledge that I am expected to believe.

When I give advice I always say go and research it yourself.

I am not giving you reasons why I think doctors are idiots since those are private and personal. If you are honest and have had serious contact with the medical profession you would agree they are idiots. You say fallible which is a half hearted way of saying they f-up.

So for the 3rd time don't call me anti-science just because I don't simply *believe* those people who I am supposed to consider better than me.

If you think science should be done by trained scientists only then you are a brainwashed sheep.

My opinion beats my doctors opinion on me.
This should be true for anyone.
People should not believe doctors without doing research. Believing people gives them the power to lie to you, which they will.

It is not anti-science to demand scientific proof of science. You are wrong if you suggest that science is something we should all believe. No one should believe a scientist since that's the total opposite of science.

Health is always a compromise since we all die in the end. The idea is to optimise your life to get the most of what you want from it. This is not always what the doctor thinks you should want.

The healthy at any size is relative. You can be fat and healthy but perhaps not as healthy as you'd be if smaller.

Amaretta,

You advised her to cut down on salt. I disagree.
You advised her to do what her doctors advise, I disagree.
Dairy fat and meat fat is better than vegetable fat. Olive Oil and Avacados are OK but the biggest source of vegetable fat are cooking oil and margarine type spreads which are terrible.

I advised her to do her own deep research where as you advise her to do what her doctor says. Your advice could get you into trouble since you're not advising her to make up her own mind.

When there are doctors maiming and killing people all over the place and their oath of do no harm has gone out the window it would be terrible for someone to simply do as their doctor said.

Someone advised a friend to get surgery for her carpel tunnel syndrome. Then the advisory said, "sorry I can't write anymore my hands still have not recovered from my carpel tunnel surgery".

Seriously the best advice is to listen to what people say, research it then take responsibility for your own decision.

For example I am saying doctors are idiots and maim and kill people all the time. Research that, see if there is any validity to that. What do people on forums say about blood pressure medicine or statins?

The medical profession has it backwards with blood pressure. High blood pressure is a symptom of a problem not a cause. A fire engine attending a fire is a symptom of the fire not the cause.

If blood pressure is high then it needs to be. Perhaps blood is not reaching important parts of the body and the body increases pressure to compensate. Clearly reducing blood pressure would be like pulling the fire engines from a fire.

Your body needs plenty of salt. If you have more than you need then you just wee and sweat it out. If you have less than you need then your body chemistry goes wrong and you get inflammation and high blood pressure and many other problems. In order to digest food your body needs the chlorine from salt to form stomach acid. Without strong acid you get acid indigestion and undigested food in the gut making you fart.

Part of the problem with obesity is the life threatening but well meaning advice from people who tell you that salt is bad. If you have health problems and you're not even obese then you probably eat plant fats rather than animal fats. You probably drink skimmed milk rather than whole milk. You probably think soy products are healthy.

A good way to reduce the need for high blood pressure is to put a lot of epsom salts in your bath water and soak for an hour. If you only have a shower then get a spay bottle of magnesium salt and spry it on your skin.

If you use a blood pressure meter you should be able to bring your blood pressure down first by calming yourself and secondly using the magnesium salt. What you must not do is take drugs to force down your blood pressure, that's worse than using leaches to drain blood. That is unless your blood pressure is so high it's actually causing blood vessels to burst.

Do some wide reaching research. Get to actually know your own body. Don't let doctors dictate to you, it's amazing how stupid most of them are (I know from bitter experience). Be in charge of yourself.

Don't be FORCED by doctors. They are there to assist you live your life. Obviously they are going to advocate health, they are doctors.

You need to accept a fact that being obese will reduce your health, activity and lifespan.

How much it badly affects you physically is controlled by a number of factors, some of which you can control.

As a fat person you need to work out a compromise or trade with yourself between your health and your enjoyment of being fat.

Some people want to live the healthiest possible life at the healthiest possible size. We're not those people. Some people want to keep growing as fat as possible until it kills them, that's some of us.

If you like being fat you're going to be dealing with doctors giving you a hard time about weight, blood pressure, cholesterol and blood sugar. Even if you are very healthy and fat they will nag you about your BMI.

Ultimately you are responsible for how you live your life, you don't have to please other people unless you need their support.