Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.

Ferro1987:
What has his thread turned into?!

I like my hairy belly!



Happy to hear that, love.
1 year

Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.

VladGhostal:
Also, right there. In making it an empowering statement, you are casting anyone thin into the dustbin smiley

Unity. Strive for unity. Ain't it great what the human stomach can do in general? like fella ive tortured the poor thing.


Yeah we were ***es, back when humans were ***es. Like, were getting there. Short gals need some boosting next imo. Gal at my old work, best boss ever. Just fun and good at managing. She had so much trouble sometimes getting everyone a bit :-| srs faced. Miss ya Katy! Crazy a** smiley

If we are truly the progressive ones, the morally correct ones in this lifestyle, we should have no trouble taking the high road on all this imo


If you think that empowering a marginalized group comes at the cost of another group, then you are not as progressive as you think you are.

Fun fact, buddy. I'm not fat. I've never been fat. I've been underweight for most of my life before becoming muscular. Fat people loving themselves and feeling empowered does not strip me of anything. If anything, it improves my life. Because when we uplift marginalized people, we as a society are better off.

Would you say that about racial minorities? Women? LBTQIA+? People with disabilities?

If you would, you are not a progressive person.

Two people are in the middle of a deep pool. One can swim, but the other can't. Would you help them out of the pool the same way? Or would you do it differently? If you really want unity, you'd meet people where they are.
1 year

Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.

VladGhostal:
"Fat - especially fat bellies - are stigmatized. "

Is that like a rule? Like heres physics, and here's a tribalistic us vs them mindset that does nothing but create an "other" instead of....just knowing skinny=desirable was contextual?

Like get out of the West, have you seen a Samoan? Lol smiley. Many places aren't as uptight as the ones with a 17th Century fire and brimstone Protestantism upbringing.

Sumo? Venus?
Trust me, it may not be pretty, but the world ain't as against ya as you think smiley breathe easy


I'm a black woman born and raised in the American South. We appreciate thicker bodies, but we also experience discrimination for not achieving Euro-centric standards of beauty. And a lot of these people standards were made with with anti-black racism in mind.

And before you say "well, there are different beauty standards in other places", might I remind you of colonialism and the internet?

I'm flabbergasted you've never heard of fatphobia. Have you never gone outside and talked to people? Have you never heard of fat activism? Fat discrimination? Never knew someone denied medical care because the doctor thought their health issues were due to eating too many Twinkies only for them to have cancer?

Tell me you don't talk to fat people without telling me you don't talk to fat people.
1 year

Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.

Munchies:


Enas:
Please offer your insight! Don't waste your time and energy on responding with completely useless, to the conversation, memes!


I'm just calling a spade a spade.

Beauty is subjective as well as a social construct. But that doesn't mean it's not real.

Fat - especially fat bellies - are stigmatized. Women have it worse, but the general public sees them as disgusting. This leads to a lot of mental health issues that can spill over to physical health issues. On top of that, people perceived as gross and ugly are far more disadvantaged over those perceived as beautiful or even average. There's tons on stories in the forums alone about those denied medical care or encouraged to engage in dangerous, life threatening things all in the name of losing weight. Some have been abused for their soft middles.

So saying "all bellies are beautiful" is more than a platitude. It is a radial statement of reclaiming power and control. To be beautiful is to be valued. And when you know have value, you aren't going to accept the discrimination a lot of people force on you. Because boy howdy do a lot of people internalize fatphobia and think they deserve the abuse they get.

This shouldn't be reality, but it is. And it's like this pretty much everywhere - even within the fat fetish community.

So, once again:
1 year

Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.

MrOverstuffed:
Everyone's belly, no matter the color, gender, shape, size, hairness, blemished, or anything, is valid and beautiful!
That being said, the only one I personally have a preference for both male and female that I can appreciate more on a personal level is a soft smooth belly. Whether it's tight or squishy is irrelevant, though I like it more ball-like than with rolls.
I do not find any bellies ugly, but there are some that I can just vibe with a lot easier than others because they are more my type.

Enas:
Well, i understand that this comes from a good place, but i find bizarre this way of trying to appreciate a belly! Let me explain:
No belly is beautiful. For the same reason nothing in this world is beautiful, or ugly. That's not a property of objects, but an idea in our heads! We think it! It's us, who find things beautiful or ugly! And if there are many (different) opinions, some will find it beautiful, others indifferent, and some will think it's ugly.

My point is that this is neither a way to appreciate people's individuality, because it contradicts itself (by way of assuming that we all have or we all ought to have the same, set way of thinking)

We have to come up with something better than this!

For example things don't owe us to be beautiful. The first step to trully appreciate a belly on the basis of beauty, is to realize it's right to not be beautiful! And it's then that you can appreciate the relationship between the object (in this case the belly) and the person who finds it beautiful!! That's far more radical! Not only it is much more liberating, but it's liberating on more dimensions too! If you want to gain or loose weight, because you have a desire to have a certain body, different to the one you got, it liberates you from hating your body for not being beautiful, because it simply doesn't owe anyone that! But it also doesn't force you into believing that your body is in fact beautiful or ugly, because it's neither! But you have the freedom to like it or dislike it! You can find it beautiful or ugly! Or even be indifferent! Nobody else can force that *you should* find it beautiful, or ugly. But simultaneously they also can have their opinion, and you don't have to view it in the same way!! You can talk about it if you want, that whould be cool if it is done in a productive way, but you could also not, if you don't want to!

Note that this doesn't make harassment acceptable tho, constructive discussion is one thing. Harassment is something different and stupid!

I hope this came out clearly! And im really curious, what do you think? Feel free to criticize what i said!


1 year

Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.

Munchies:
Ma'am, you probably have PCOS or idiopathic hirsutism. Fire your doctor. That doctor is too stupid to breathe.

ForeverFFA:
I mean that doctor did order the labs I needed (which came back fine). But yeah, it was sloppy to bring in an old wives' tale like that.


Glad your labs came back okay. 💖
1 year

Question about rapid gain/melted ice cream

FatAdmirerHeHeHeHa:
I’ve always wanted to try a huge overflow of calories for a week type thing, and I’ve heard a good way is melted cream and heavy cream. I am somebody whose body pretty much turns everything to fat but I also don’t want to waste calories.

Is there a good ratio of ice cream, heavy cream, and food calories that would make me gain as fast as possible if I were to go for it. Like a week challenge to just eat a ton, drink a melted ice cream heavy cream thing, sleep til lunch, rinse and repeat for a week.

Afterwards I’d probably go back to my normal life but I wanted to see thoughts and ideas before I’d try something like this and recommendations, please let me know!

Munchies:
Don't go too crazy with the melted ice cream. The sugar high and sugar crash will be insane.

FatAdmirerHeHeHeHa:
True that’s why the idea is just for the week if I am able to go through with it. To be honest, with as much sugar I used to eat I never really got sugar highs or crashes, well I never felt them anyway.


That's ... actually concerning. This means you were eating so much sugar that your body never had a chance to properly metabolize it all. This also means your pancreas was working overtime just to keep you alive.

And if you haven't had that much sugar in a while but go back to eating that way, you're going to make yourself sick. Your body has gotten used to producing less insulin, so going too crazy with the sugar will make you sick. I am not saying you're diabetic. But this would make anyone feel sick. Especially if you keep it up for a week.

If you have your heart set on melted ice cream and heavy cream, keep it to once a day on top of everything else you're eating.

I strongly recommend eating normal food on top of the shakes. Your body needs proper nutrition to function, and it will be hard for your body to regulate itself otherwise.

Had a feedee once who did something similar, but he did it with chocolate milk and heavy cream. He struggled to process everything and kept passing out. He was not a diabetic.
1 year

Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.

ForeverFFA:
Thank you for dispelling this misinformation. I recently saw a doctor who tried to convince me that I gave myself hirsutism from choosing to shave. Argh!






Ma'am, you probably have PCOS or idiopathic hirsutism. Fire your doctor. That doctor is too stupid to breathe.
1 year

Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.

Morbidly A Beast:
hmm interesting for sure this explains the smoothness of expansive areas i tend to store fat, and newer parts of the overhang. I didn’t know.


Yup. On the flip side, as you lose weight, you might look hairier.

My partner has always been fuzzy. However, he's looking fuzzier since he's been losing weight. He hasn't grown more hair follicles. Instead, there's less space between them.
1 year

Has anybody had experience gaining completely healthily

Christina5464:
I made a post not long ago being in two minds about trying this out. I do love being slim,and I value health above all, so my diet is only natural foods with no junk, sweets or anything and I value local, organic food and exercise but I've always had this kink to but never gained any it is hard to handle at times. Has anybody ever felt similar and had experience with this?


Size does not equal health. Sure, there are some sizes that are unhealthy, but they are on the extreme ends.

If you eat clean, stay active, and see your doctor at least once a year, you'll be fine.

Most obesity related health issues do not come from your size so much as they come from what you eat and lack of movement.
1 year